Re: Hub Discussion

[Tom Van den Panhuyzen <tomvdp@xxxxxxxxx>]

I have a small preference for including a hub into xpl-apps because I
think a stand-alone hub isn't always necessary, could complicate
installs and will require considerable effort from the group (split
xpl lib & hub, move download link to xpl home page with big red font,
update documentation, remove internal hub from xpl Hal).

I have no problem going over the xpllib V3 code to seperate hub & lib
if the consensus is to have a seperate hub.

Mal has a similar idea I was thinking of: create some sort of
xpl-diagnostic program to help new users detect anomalies.
Functionalities: detect if a hub is running and what kind (no longer
necessary if seperate hub wins the vote), detecting if packets can
pass through firewall, IP-broadcast, listento, listenon settings,
allow sending test-msgs etcetera.


On 9/14/05, Mal Lansell <mal@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>    Same here.
>
>   I can't see any benefit at all to having multiple hubs - it's just
>   more things to go wrong.  The standalone would also allow the Java
>   apps to co-exist properly with the .NET stuff.
>
>   Although I was the one who suggested including it with all
>   downloads, as DirectX is included with games, I'm fine with having
>   it as a separate download.
>
>   I do think we should have a "Basic xPL" install package
available
>   though.  It would contain the standalone hub + xPLHal and anything
>   else deemed essential (perhaps an xPL validator, to report things
>   that are not working - much easier if you know where the hub should
>   be!).  That would save newbies from hunting for all the bits and
>   pieces, and the  documentation (or validator) could advise on
>   solutions to common problems (firewalls etc).
>
>   Mal
>
>
>   --- In ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx, "Frank Mc Alinden"
<frankmc@i...>
>   wrote:
>   > My vote would go to having a separate Hub.....
>   >
>   > Frank
>   >   ----- Original Message -----
>   >   From: Gerry Duprey
>   >   To: ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx
>   >   Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 12:29 PM
>   >   Subject: [ukha_xpl] Hub Discussion
>   >
>   >
>   >   Howdy,
>   >
>   >   I sort of noticed all talk about the hub issues has died
away.
>   Not wanting
>   >   to be too much of a boor I ask -- is it that folks just are
done
>   discussing
>   >   it for now?
>   >
>   >   If not, should we try to move toward a consensus solution?
>   >
>   >   Gerry
>   >   --
>   >   Gerry Duprey
>   >   Ann Arbor, MI 48103
>   >   http://www.cdp1802.org
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