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Re: Possible pauses with xPLHAL
Ian Lowe wrote:
>I think, tbh that this is just another case of Misterhouse's broken xpl
>implementation coming to the fore.
>
>I don't know how many times we have to say it before an MH developer
>will listen - Misterhouse DOES NOT implement xPL properly, and will NOT
>interact with any other xPL app/device correctly.
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One observation... I personally use mh to interoperate w/ xplrionet,
xplrionettts, slimserver and the tom10 connector w/o any problems I
also know of other mh users that also interoperate w/ xPL devices. So,
I'd offer that the comment above is not entirely true. If there are
issues w/ Misterhouse not implementing xPL properly, then please
elaborate them or cite an archived message that does the same and I will
do what I can to address them. I am not aware of any specific xPL bugs
or defects in mh that have been deliberately ignored.
>One thought - is your MH running on a "real" linux machine,
or in a VM
>Ware session?
>
>
FYI-mh is a perl implementation. It is capable of "running" on
any OS
that has the required perl libraries and interpreter. In addition, mh
is released in a pre-compiled form that can run on a win32 system.
>Ian.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx] On
>Behalf Of Neil Wrightson
>Sent: 20 July 2005 13:18
>To: ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx
>Subject: RE: [ukha_xpl] Possible pauses with xPLHAL
>
>Hi Ian,
>
>OK, did that and it still pauses?????
>
>It appears that the only way I can see these pauses is by using MH to
>send data out every second and watch for the pausing. I don't have
>another tool to generate these messages at one second intervals.
>But the big common factor in all of this so far is MH. So I guess I had
>better write my Delphi app to simulate what I'm asking MH to, and that
>is send out an OSD message with the current time every second.
>
>Regards,
>
>Neil Wrightson.
>
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>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Ian Lowe [mailto:ian.lowe@xxxxxxx]
>>Sent: Wednesday, 20 July 2005 7:53 PM
>>To: ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx
>>Subject: RE: [ukha_xpl] Possible pauses with xPLHAL
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>>Well, that kinda rules out xplhal as a factor - if you are using
the
>>vb6hub, and xplhal isn't actually running, but the pauses are still
>>happening...
>>
>>Then either there's an issue with the messages being sent out by
MH,
>>or the xpldevcom app (or some low level IP thing happening)
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>>http://chapelhall.wintermute-ltd.com/ian/xplrawmonitor.zip
>>
>>Might help, as it will show if the pause is from MH or devcom. Try
>>just running misterhouse, the vbhub and this monitor, see what you
get
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>>:D
>>
>>Ian.
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx] On
>>Behalf Of Neil Wrightson
>>Sent: 20 July 2005 10:43
>>To: ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx
>>Subject: RE: [ukha_xpl] Possible pauses with xPLHAL
>>
>>Ian,
>>
>>I take it that I still need the VBHUB operating?
>>If I leave the VBHUB operating and stop the service then the
display
>>still pauses in the same manner as before but it appears that there
>>are a few more small delays happening, every now and then it pauses
>>for 2 or
>>3 seconds and then plays catchup.
>>
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Neil Wrightson.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Ian Lowe [mailto:ian.lowe@xxxxxxx]
>>>Sent: Wednesday, 20 July 2005 7:33 PM
>>>To: ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx
>>>Subject: RE: [ukha_xpl] Possible pauses with xPLHAL
>>>
>>>
>>>Wait a sec...
>>>
>>>What processing is xplhal doing on the message? If xplhal is
only
>>>being used to configure the devcom app, then try this:
>>>
>>>Start xpldevcom, configure as required Confirm messages are
being
>>>displayed as expected Stop the xplhal service
>>>
>>>What happens now? Do you still have messages displayed - and
more
>>>importantly, is the pause still evident?
>>>
>>>Ian.
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx] On
>>>Behalf Of Neil Wrightson
>>>Sent: 20 July 2005 10:04
>>>To: ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx
>>>Subject: RE: [ukha_xpl] Possible pauses with xPLHAL
>>>
>>>OK,
>>>
>>>Done the below suggestion and it still pauses. I used the
>>>
>>>
>>VB6 HUB and
>>
>>
>>>just to prove that the xPLHAL hub is stopped, if I kill the
>>>
>>>
>>VBHUB my
>>
>>
>>>display stops updating. When I restart the VBHUB the
>>>
>>>
>>display starts to
>>
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>>
>>>display the time again.
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>
>>>Neil Wrightson.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: Tony Tofts [mailto:tony@xxxxxxx]
>>>>Sent: Wednesday, 20 July 2005 5:58 PM
>>>>To: ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx
>>>>Subject: RE: [ukha_xpl] Possible pauses with xPLHAL
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Not sure if this cut & paste will work or not but
here goes.
>>>>>
>>>>>An example is at the end of this list but to save you
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>some time here
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>are two consecutive messages.
>>>>>Note the Date Time stamp and the OSD Time of each
message.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>Ok, the misterhouse message goes direct to the osd - only
>>>>
>>>>
>>>using xplhal
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>as a hub then
>>>>
>>>>Can you stop xplhal, disable the hub in the xml, download
and run
>>>>either the
>>>>vb6 or .net hub, start xplhal then try your app's again
please?
>>>>
>>>>Then we can see what happens with a separate hub
>>>>
>>>>Thanks
>>>>Tony
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>xPL Links: http://www.xplproject.org.uk http://www.xplhal.com
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