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Re: Re: Mango M2M and xAP]



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I will contact you off list - I don't anticipate there being a problem with
us reaching agreement.

Patrick

On 3/24/07, mlohbihler <ml@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Hi Kevin,
>
> Thanks for the information. Regarding the license, if it is indeed GPL
> i unfortunately will not be able to use the code within Mango, since i
> am planning to have add-ons and such for which i would charge. If the
> developer (Patrick Lidstone, i believe) has not yet decided, then the
> LGPL is much more adoption friendly.
>
> Best regards,
> m@
>
>
> --- In xAP_developer@xxxxxxx, Kevin Hawkins <lists@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi Matthew,
> >
> >   I had a quick look at your website and this looks very
interesting
> > ...  glad you are considering adding xAP support.
> >
> >    Probably the most prevalent and useful schema you will wish to
> > support is xAP 'BSC'  which is Basic Status and Control - it
handles
> (as
> > it says on the tin) most simple I/O involving binary, level and
text
> > based devices.
> >
>
> http://www.xapautomation.org/wiki/index.php/Basic_Status_and_Control_Schema
> >
> > We will  be augmenting this with a 'TSC' schema (telemetry) very
> > shortly and an initial 'for comment' version is already available
at
> the
> > url below. TSC better handles sensor reporting data including 
ranges,
> > real world units and negative values etc.
> >
>
> http://www.xapautomation.org/wiki/index.php/xAP_Telemetry_Status_and_Control_Schema
> >
> >   There are a few hardware I/O devices supporting embedded xAP
BSC.
> > Two useful ones will be the Phaedrus xAP Netiom which is
essentially
> > mostly digital I/O, including serial  but has 4 analogue inputs.
Of
> > recent date the opnone which is a 1-wire interface, shortly there
will
> > be a serial version too that supports X10 and another for SMS
> messaging.
> >  There is also an embedded C-Bus controller supporting BSC but
you
> > probably won't have the hardware to support that.  If you are
able to
> > work with software applications there are also several other
useful
> > applications around using BSC that could help too.
> >
> > http://www.phaedrusltd.com/pages/html/netiom-xap.html
> > http://www.opnode.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=home
> >
> >    Any questions - just ask away and once again ... I believe the
> > existing Java libraries are also released under GPL and there
have been
> > a couple of tweaks to them recently ... but I'll leave that to be
> > confirmed by those involved.....   Once again welcome and I look
> forward
> > to seeing xAP support within Mango M2M
> >
> >   Cheers Kevin
> >
> >  mlohbihler wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I'm the primary developer of Mango M2M
> > > (http://mango.serotoninsoftware.com).
I'm considering adding xAP
> > > support to the product, but first wanted to check on the
license for
> > > the Java implementation. Mango is licensed as open source
under GPL.
> > >
> > > Also, if anyone knows of something good that could serve as
an xAP
> > > evaluation kit (i.e. real hardware for testing the Mango/xAP
> > > integration), i would appreciate any suggestions.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Matthew Lohbihler
> > > Serotonin Software
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

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I will contact you off list - I don&#39;t anticipate there being a
problem with us reaching
agreement.<br><br>Patrick<br><br><div><span
class="gmail_quote">On 3/24/07, <b
class="gmail_sendername">mlohbihler</b> &lt;<a
href="mailto:ml@xxxxxxx";>
ml@xxxxxxx</a>&gt; wrote:</span><blockquote
class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204,
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Hi
Kevin,<br><br>Thanks for the information. Regarding the
license, if it is indeed GPL
<br>i unfortunately will not be able to use the code within Mango,
since i<br>am planning to have add-ons and such for which i would
charge. If the<br>developer (Patrick Lidstone, i believe) has not yet
decided, then the<br>
LGPL is much more adoption friendly.<br><br>Best
regards,<br>m@<br><br><br>--- In <a
href="mailto:xAP_developer@xxxxxxx";>xAP_developer@xxxxxxx</a>,
Kevin Hawkins &lt;lists@...&gt;
wrote:<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>
&gt; Hi
Matthew,<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; I had a
quick look at your website and this looks very
interesting<br>&gt; ...&nbsp;&nbsp;glad you are
considering adding xAP
support.<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Probably
the most prevalent and useful schema you will wish to
<br>&gt; support is xAP
&#39;BSC&#39;&nbsp;&nbsp;which is Basic Status and Control
- it handles<br>(as<br>&gt; it says on the tin) most simple
I/O involving binary, level and text<br>&gt; based
devices.<br>&gt;<br><a href="http://www.xapautomation.org/wiki/index.php/Basic_Status_and_Control_Schema";>
http://www.xapautomation.org/wiki/index.php/Basic_Status_and_Control_Schema</a><br>&gt;<br>&gt;
We will&nbsp;&nbsp;be augmenting this with a &#39;TSC&#39;
schema (telemetry) very<br>&gt; shortly and an initial
&#39;for comment&#39; version is already available at
<br>the<br>&gt; url below. TSC better handles sensor
reporting data including&nbsp;&nbsp;ranges,<br>&gt; real
world units and negative values etc.<br>&gt;<br><a
href="http://www.xapautomation.org/wiki/index.php/xAP_Telemetry_Status_and_Control_Schema";>
http://www.xapautomation.org/wiki/index.php/xAP_Telemetry_Status_and_Control_Schema</a><br>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;
There are a few hardware I/O devices supporting embedded xAP
BSC.<br>&gt; Two useful ones will be the Phaedrus xAP Netiom
which is essentially
<br>&gt; mostly digital I/O, including
serial&nbsp;&nbsp;but has 4 analogue inputs. Of<br>&gt;
recent date the opnone which is a 1-wire interface, shortly there
will<br>&gt; be a serial version too that supports X10 and
another for SMS
<br>messaging.<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;There is also an
embedded C-Bus controller supporting BSC but you<br>&gt; probably
won&#39;t have the hardware to support that.&nbsp;&nbsp;If you
are able to<br>&gt; work with software applications there are
also several other useful
<br>&gt; applications around using BSC that could help
too.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; <a href="http://www.phaedrusltd.com/pages/html/netiom-xap.html";>http://www.phaedrusltd.com/pages/html/netiom-xap.html</a><br>&gt;
<a href="http://www.opnode.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=home";>
http://www.opnode.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=home</a><br>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Any
questions - just ask away and once again ... I believe
the<br>&gt; existing Java libraries are also released under GPL
and there have been<br>&gt; a couple of tweaks to them recently
... but I&#39;ll leave that to be
<br>&gt; confirmed by those involved.....&nbsp;&nbsp;
Once again welcome and I look<br>forward<br>&gt; to seeing
xAP support within Mango
M2M<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; Cheers
Kevin<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;mlohbihler
wrote:<br>&gt; &gt; Hi,<br>&gt; &gt;
<br>&gt; &gt; I&#39;m the primary developer of Mango
M2M<br>&gt; &gt; (<a href="http://mango.serotoninsoftware.com";>http://mango.serotoninsoftware.com</a>).
I&#39;m considering adding xAP<br>&gt; &gt; support to
the product, but first wanted to check on the license for
<br>&gt; &gt; the Java implementation. Mango is licensed as
open source under GPL.<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt;
&gt; Also, if anyone knows of something good that could serve as an
xAP<br>&gt; &gt; evaluation kit (i.e. real hardware for
testing the Mango/xAP
<br>&gt; &gt; integration), i would appreciate any
suggestions.<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt;
Thanks,<br>&gt; &gt; Matthew Lohbihler<br>&gt;
&gt; Serotonin Software<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt;
&gt;<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt;
&gt;<br>&gt; &gt; Yahoo! Groups Links
<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt;
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