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Rob
I just had a quick exchange with Kevin about the counter problem. How
quickly do you reach overflow on your meter monitoring? Would there be
value in extending the counter range or is it okay to manage a reset as
the limit is reached?
Any other thoughts on this topic are welcome.
Best Regards
David
-----Original Message-----
From: xap_automation@xxxxxxx
[mailto:xap_automation@xxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of David Pullen
Sent: 05 July 2005 14:03
To: xap_automation@xxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [xap_automation] Netiom-xAP
Okay - I have had a response from Roy at Phaedrus and I have done some
more testing with the counters.
First - I have found that the BSC command does work for setting the
counter, eg.
xap-header
{
v=12
hop=1
uid=FF411100
class=xAPBSC.cmd
source=mi4.homeseer.dpjukebox.Master
target=phaedrus.netiom.location:counter.9
}
counter.state.1
{
id=39
level=900
}
Roy has responded re the counter overflow with the following comments:
"Handling a counter overflow always causes problems. We can do one of
3
things:
1. Freeze the counter at the upper limit. This is OK but if an
application is looking for a change without checking for the upper
boundary then it can prevent it from functioning correctly.
2. Reset to zero. In this case the monitoring application could get
confused in any number of ways.
3. Allow the counter to overflow, in this case it will return a negative
value. This has two main advantages. It imeadiately indicates that there
has been an overflow and because it is done in a defined manner it
allows the application to derive the amount by which the counter has
overflowed.
As with anything of this nature it is better for the application to
monitor and maintain the couters inteligently, applying a reset as soon
as the counter nears its overflow level."
A reasonable response indicating that the overflow is probably planned.
If we think the counters should react differently then we should come up
with an appropriate response. I think I am reasonably happy with this
approach but would be interested in any other ideas.
BR
David
-----Original Message-----
From: xap_automation@xxxxxxx
[mailto:xap_automation@xxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of David Pullen
Sent: 01 July 2005 20:28
To: xap_automation@xxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [xap_automation] Netiom-xAP
Rob
I don't believe you can switch off individual node events.
The following command will set the counter to 0. You can actually set to
any acceptable value.
xap-header
{
v=12
hop=1
uid=FF411100
class=netiom.cmd
source=mi4.homeseer.dpjukebox.Master
target=phaedrus.netiom.location
}
counters.state
{
counter.1=0
}
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I just had a quick exchange with
Kevin
about the counter problem. How quickly do you reach overflow on your meter
monitoring? Would there be value in extending the counter range or is it
okay
to manage a reset as the limit is
reached?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Any other thoughts on this topic
are
welcome.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
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Regards<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
xap_automation@xxxxxxx [mailto:xap_automation@xxxxxxx]
<b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>David
Pullen<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b>
</span></font><st1:date
Month="7" Day="5" Year="2005"><font
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July
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</span></font><st1:time
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b>
xap_automation@xxxxxxx<br>
<b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE:
[xap_automation]
Netiom-xAP</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2
color=navy
face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Okay
– I have had a response from
</span></font><st1:City><st1:place><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>Roy</span></font></st1:place></st1:City><font
size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> at
Phaedrus and I have done some more testing with the
counters.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color=navy
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2
color=navy
face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>First
– I have found that the BSC command does work for setting the
counter,
eg.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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New";color:black'>=mi4.homeseer.dpjukebox.Master<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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text-autospace:none'><font size=1 color=black face="Courier
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style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Courier
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Serif";color:blue;
font-weight:bold'>{</span></font></b><font size=1
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style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Courier
New";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Courier
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style='mso-spacerun:yes'>
</span>id=39<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='mso-spacerun:yes'>
</span>level=900<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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text-autospace:none'><b><font size=1 color=blue
face="Microsoft Sans Serif"><span
style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Microsoft Sans
Serif";color:blue;
font-weight:bold'>}</span></font></b><font size=1
color=black face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Courier
New";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2
color=navy
face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal
style='margin-left:36.0pt'><st1:City><st1:place><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>Roy</span></font></st1:place></st1:City><font
size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> has
responded re the counter overflow with the following
comments:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2
color=navy
face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal
style='margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:36.0pt'><font size=2
face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>“Handling a
counter overflow always causes problems. We can do one of 3
things:</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><font size=2
face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>1. Freeze the counter at the
upper
limit. This is OK but if an application is looking for a change without
checking for the upper boundary then it can prevent it from functioning
correctly.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal
style='margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:36.0pt'><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>2.
Reset to zero.
In this case the monitoring application could get confused in any number of
ways.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><font size=2
face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>3. Allow the counter to
overflow, in
this case it will return a negative value. This has two main advantages. It
imeadiately indicates that there has been an overflow and because it is
done in
a defined manner it allows the application to derive the amount by which
the
counter has
overflowed.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><font size=2
face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>As with anything of this
nature it
is better for the application to monitor and maintain the couters
inteligently,
applying a reset as soon as the counter nears its overflow
level.”<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2
face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2
face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>A reasonable response
indicating
that the overflow is probably planned. If we think the counters should
react
differently then we should come up with an appropriate response. I think I
am
reasonably happy with this approach but would be interested in any other
ideas.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2
face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2
face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>BR<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2
face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>David</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2
color=navy
face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2
color=navy
face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2
color=navy
face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span
lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>-----Original
Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
xap_automation@xxxxxxx [mailto:xap_automation@xxxxxxx]
<b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>David
Pullen<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b>
</span></font><st1:date
Month="7" Day="1" Year="2005"><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>01
July
2005</span></font></st1:date><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>
</span></font><st1:time
Hour="20" Minute="28"><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>20:28</span></font></st1:time><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b>
xap_automation@xxxxxxx<br>
<b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE:
[xap_automation]
Netiom-xAP</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin-left:72.0pt'><font size=2 face="Courier
New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier
New"'>Rob</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-left:72.0pt'><font size=2 face="Courier
New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>I don't
believe you can
switch off</span></font> <font size=2 face="Courier
New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>individual
node events.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-left:72.0pt'><font size=2 face="Courier
New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>The
following command will
set the counter to 0. You can actually set to any</span></font>
<font size=2
face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier
New"'>acceptable</span></font>
<font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>value.
</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-left:72.0pt'><font size=2 face="Courier
New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier
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<p style='margin-left:72.0pt'><font size=2 face="Courier
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New"'>{</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier
New"'>
v=12</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-left:72.0pt'><font size=2 face="Courier
New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier
New"'>
hop=1</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier
New"'>
uid=FF411100</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier
New"'>
class=netiom.cmd</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-left:72.0pt'><font size=2 face="Courier
New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier
New"'>
source=mi4.homeseer.dpjukebox.Master</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier
New"'>
target=phaedrus.netiom.location</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-left:72.0pt'><font size=2 face="Courier
New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier
New"'>}</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-left:72.0pt'><font size=2 face="Courier
New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier
New"'>counters.state</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-left:72.0pt'><font size=2 face="Courier
New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier
New"'>{</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-left:72.0pt'><font size=2 face="Courier
New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier
New"'>
counter.1=0</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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