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Cool - thanks everyone for filling in on the detail.
Seems a reasonable thing that any =E2=80=98bulb=E2=80=99 replacement
lights=
should operate as a standard lamp when re-powered so thats cool too. Can j=
ust start to replace our normal lights with the Hue Whites and bring them
i=
n to the fold so to speak. Has anyone noticed and degrading of light
levels=
over time? Its been a while since I have used any LED type replacements an=
d it didn't take too long for people to notice that it wasn't as bright as
=
it started out - to the point we just swapped them all back again.
I take it the Philips gear needs to see the internet to be able to
operate?=
I=E2=80=99m guessing this from the ability to remotely control your lights=
etc (looking at their example videos).
Is this the same thing with the Samsung SmartThings also? Does it /have/
to=
be connected to their internet accounts or can it call be controlled inter=
nally via custom software etc?
Paul, your trigger command with the video was to =E2=80=98make it
christmas=
=E2=80=99 does the Pi server act as a sort of Siri Proxy that can use the
p=
ower of Siri to pick up on custom commands rather than the =E2=80=99turn
on=
office light=E2=80=99 that you generally see in the Home Kit demos? I=E2=
=80=99m guessing looking at the HomeBridge site this is a plug in frame
wor=
k of sorts that could be custom triggered not just from Siri but other
sour=
ces as well?
Thanks again all.
Wayne.
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> On 31 Dec 2015, at 14:40, Paul Gale groups2@xxxxxxx [ukha_d] <uk=
ha_d@xxxxxxx> wrote:
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> Yes that's my video and write up Wayne :)
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> Glad it's given a bit of inspiration. The log fire video as Mark says,
is=
a Sky on demand video. It's not great but OK. Was nice for Christmas morni=
ng opening presents :) Was a bit of a last minute addition to make the
room=
more Christmassy! The other videos they had were truly shockingly bad thou=
gh! Very poor animation. I could have animated something (my day job) and
s=
old it to Sky!
>=20
> As Phil and others say, the hue lamps come on full brightness if
manually=
power cycled. What you really want is the new dimmer kit which has a remot=
e on/off/dimmer switch. This is really the missing part of the hue system
a=
nd can replace a light switch whilst still retaining HA control from other
=
devices (as the lamp is then permanently powered to react to on/off/dim
com=
mands). What's even nicer with the Philips dimmer is if you assign it to a
=
full scene, it can turn that whole scene on/off and also DIM that scene
too=
. Really nice :) the dimmer switch is actually a small remote that
attaches=
to the wall plate via magnets so can be used as a remote or left on the wa=
ll. The wall plate has screw fix holes or can be mounted via the attached
s=
ticky pads. Very neat solution, nicely made, looks good and I think great
v=
alue at =C2=A330 for controller and a single hue white bulb. Amazon seem
to=
be out of stock again (hue stock levels seem to be very poor generally) bu=
t is in stock from DmLights (Belgium IIRC). Used them a lot - good
delivery=
and stock levels and great pricing on some hue kit - although anything wit=
h power plugs are EU type of course so need a 2 pin adapter.=20
>=20
> Paul.
>=20
> On 31 Dec 2015, at 07:46, Mark McCall lists@xxxxxxx <mailto:l=
ists@xxxxxxx> [ukha_d] <ukha_d@xxxxxxx <mailto:ukha_d@y=
ahoogroups.com>> wrote:
>=20
>> BTW, the 'DVD' in Paul's video is actually a downloadable
Christmas them=
e on Sky+ box.
>>=20
>> M.
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Cool - thanks everyone for filling in on the detail.<div
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ss=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Seems a
reasonable thing that any =E2=80=98bu=
lb=E2=80=99 replacement lights should operate as a standard lamp when
re-po=
wered so thats cool too. Can just start to replace our normal lights with
t=
he Hue Whites and bring them in to the fold so to speak. Has anyone
noticed=
and degrading of light levels over time? Its been a while since I have use=
d any LED type replacements and it didn't take too long for people to
notic=
e that it wasn't as bright as it started out - to the point we just
swapped=
them all back again.<br class=3D""><div
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><d=
iv class=3D"">I take it the Philips gear needs to see the
internet to be ab=
le to operate? I=E2=80=99m guessing this from the ability to remotely
contr=
ol your lights etc (looking at their example videos).</div><div
class=3D"">=
Is this the same thing with the Samsung SmartThings also? Does it /have/
to=
be connected to their internet accounts or can it call be controlled inter=
nally via custom software etc?</div><div
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><d=
iv class=3D"">Paul, your trigger command with the video was to
=E2=80=98mak=
e it christmas=E2=80=99 does the Pi server act as a sort of Siri Proxy
that=
can use the power of Siri to pick up on custom commands rather than the =
=E2=80=99turn on office light=E2=80=99 that you generally see in the Home
K=
it demos? I=E2=80=99m guessing looking at the HomeBridge site this is a
plu=
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14:40, Paul Gale <a href=3D"ma=
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<div class=3D"">Yes that's my video and write up Wayne
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<div class=3D""><br class=3D"">
</div>
<div class=3D"">Glad it's given a bit of inspiration. The
log fire video as=
Mark says, is a Sky on demand video. It's not great but OK. Was nice for C=
hristmas morning opening presents :) Was a bit of a last minute addition
to=
make the room more
Christmassy! The other videos they had were truly shockingly bad though! V=
ery poor animation. I could have animated something (my day job) and sold
i=
t to Sky!</div>
<div class=3D""><br class=3D"">
</div>
<div class=3D"">As Phil and others say, the hue lamps come
on full brightne=
ss if manually power cycled. What you really want is the new dimmer kit
whi=
ch has a remote on/off/dimmer switch. This is really the missing part of
th=
e hue system and can
replace a light switch whilst still retaining HA control from other device=
s (as the lamp is then permanently powered to react to on/off/dim
commands)=
. What's even nicer with the Philips dimmer is if you assign it to a full
s=
cene, it can turn that whole scene
on/off and also DIM that scene too. Really nice :) the dimmer switch is ac=
tually a small remote that attaches to the wall plate via magnets so can
be=
used as a remote or left on the wall. The wall plate has screw fix holes o=
r can be mounted via the attached
sticky pads. Very neat solution, nicely made, looks good and I think great=
value at =C2=A330 for controller and a single hue white bulb. Amazon seem =
to be out of stock again (hue stock levels seem to be very poor generally)
=
but is in stock from DmLights (Belgium
IIRC). Used them a lot - good delivery and stock levels and great pricing =
on some hue kit - although anything with power plugs are EU type of course
=
so need a 2 pin adapter. <br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
<div class=3D"">Paul.</div>
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