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Thanks Marc,
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I think based on your experience and tonight, having looked through the
for=
um, I'll stick with HS2. It's actually pretty stable as long as the PC
does=
n't do the damned auto reboot every MS update!=20
=20
Even my own Zigbee to HS interface is stable with it.
=20
Dave=E2=80=A6
=20
---
Very funny Scotty, now beam down my clothes=E2=80=A6
---
=20
From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx] On Behalf Of M=
arc Fuller
Sent: 16 January 2014 15:07
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Homeseer 3
=20
=20=20
My honest advice? Steer clear.
=20
First off, although it's being sold as a finished product, with no mention
=
of a beta, I have been assured by those on the forums that it IS still in
b=
eta. I have a very simple setup, with just a few X10, Z-wave and RFXCom
dev=
ices.=20
=20
None of your devices will be imported. They have apparently changed the
ver=
y core of how devices are addresses and it basically means all devices
apar=
t from those that vpcan be imported from devices, like zwave, will need to
=
be manually created. Even the zwave ones need manual intervention to get
wo=
rking. I basically had to create all mine manually.
=20
This leads to the next issue. It's buggy as hell. Very often codes are
lost=
whilst saving new devices. Locations are randomly removed. Basically every=
time you save/modify a device, you will loose some of it's info. You'll th=
en find when you restart it, duplicate devices are made and are next to
imp=
ossible to get rid of. I've had major issues getting X10 to work, and when
=
it finally did, the x10 interface would crash then be unable to reopen
auto=
matically and just sit there. This resulting in me having to reboot the
who=
le PC, 3 or 4 times a day.=20
=20
The interface is a major bugbear. It's ugly as hell and a real step back.
W=
hen devices all over the tech world are coming onto market with slick
fluid=
interfaces as default, Homeseers is ugly, clunky, and complex. Oh, and bug=
gy.=20
=20
Homeseer are in real danger of being left behind (for want of a
competitor)=
. They need to take more responsibility for its interface and function, ra=
ther than leaving it to tinkerers. I expected a slick new product.. What I
=
got was a box of bolts As an avid, long term Homeseer user, I bought in
fa=
ith and trust I would be getting a good product. They have destroyed that
t=
rust.=20
=20
Ok, ok.. A little dramatic, but in this day and age with technology and
int=
erfaces becoming more and more advanced, I was hugely disappointed with
Hom=
eseer.
=20
And no.. I'm not using it. It is, for want of a better word, unusable in
it=
s current form. HS2 may be dated, but at least it works. Feel free to ask
a=
ny questions.=20
=20
Cheers
=20
Marc
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<div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><a
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<span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Thanks
=
Marc,<o:p></o:p></span></a></p><p
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-siz=
e:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p=
class=3DMsoNormal><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","s=
ans-serif"'>I think based on your experience and tonight, having
looked thr=
ough the forum, I'll stick with HS2. It's actually pretty stable as long
as=
the PC doesn't do the damned auto reboot every MS update!
<o:p></o:p></spa=
n></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Ver=
dana","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Even
my own Z=
igbee to HS interface is stable with
it.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMs=
oNormal><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'=
><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:=
10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Dave=E2=80=A6<o:p></o:p></span><=
/p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span
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a","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p
class=3DMsoNormal><spa=
n lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"=
'>---<o:p></o:p></span></p><p
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D=
'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Very
funny Scotty, no=
w beam down my
clothes=E2=80=A6<o:p></o:p></span></p><p
class=3DMsoNormal><=
span lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-ser=
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0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span
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ize:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
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ukha_d@=
yahoogroups.com [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx] <b>On Behalf
Of </b>Marc Fu=
ller<br><b>Sent:</b> 16 January 2014
15:07<br><b>To:</b> ukha_d@yahoogroups=
.com<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ukha_d] Homeseer
3<o:p></o:p></span></p></div>=
</div><p
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p
class=3DMsoNormal> =
<o:p></o:p></p><div id=3Dygrp-mlmsg><div
id=3Dygrp-msg><div id=3Dygrp-text=
><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>My honest advice? Steer
clear.<o:p></o:p></p></d=
iv><div><p
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p
class=3DMso=
Normal>First off, although it's being sold as a finished product, with
no m=
ention of a beta, I have been assured by those on the forums that it IS
sti=
ll in beta. I have a very simple setup, with just a few X10, Z-wave and
RFX=
Com
devices. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> =
;</o:p></p></div><div><p
class=3DMsoNormal>None of your devices will be imp=
orted. They have apparently changed the very core of how devices are
addres=
ses and it basically means all devices apart from those that vpcan be
impor=
ted from devices, like zwave, will need to be manually created. Even the
zw=
ave ones need manual intervention to get working. I basically had to
create=
all mine
manually.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbs=
p;</o:p></p></div><div><p
class=3DMsoNormal>This leads to the next issue. I=
t's buggy as hell. Very often codes are lost whilst saving new devices.
Loc=
ations are randomly removed. Basically every time you save/modify a
device,=
you will loose some of it's info. You'll then find when you restart it, du=
plicate devices are made and are next to impossible to get rid of. I've
had=
major issues getting X10 to work, and when it finally did, the x10 interfa=
ce would crash then be unable to reopen automatically and just sit there.
T=
his resulting in me having to reboot the whole PC, 3 or 4 times a
day. =
;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div>=
<div><p class=3DMsoNormal>The interface is a major bugbear.
It's ugly as he=
ll and a real step back. When devices all over the tech world are coming
on=
to market with slick fluid interfaces as default, Homeseers is ugly,
clunky=
, and complex. Oh, and
buggy. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p
class=3DMso=
Normal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p
class=3DMsoNormal>Homeseer are in=
real danger of being left behind (for want of a competitor) . They need to=
take more responsibility for its interface and function, rather than leavi=
ng it to tinkerers. I expected a slick new product.. What I got was a box
o=
f bolts As an avid, long term Homeseer user, I bought in faith
and tr=
ust I would be getting a good product. They have destroyed that
trust. =
;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div>=
<div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Ok, ok.. A little dramatic, but in
this day and a=
ge with technology and interfaces becoming more and more advanced, I was
hu=
gely disappointed with
Homeseer.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p
class=3DMsoNor=
mal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p
class=3DMsoNormal>And no.. I'm not u=
sing it. It is, for want of a better word, unusable in its current form.
HS=
2 may be dated, but at least it works. Feel free to ask any
questions. =
;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div>=
<div><p
class=3DMsoNormal>Cheers<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p
class=3DMsoNor=
mal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p
class=3DMsoNormal>Marc<o:p></o:p></p=
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