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Tim has basically detailed what I did. Disabling DHCP was the part I missed
at first. Your master router should handle this.
Dave.
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Very funny Scotty, now beam down my clothes.
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From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Tim Hawes
Sent: 25 February 2014 17:41
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [ukha_d] RE: Wireless Access Points?
I'm doing this currently with a mixed collection of routers (Vigor, BT Home
Hub 2 and a Belkin one).
>From memory the general process is:
- use the same SSID and passphrase on all routers
- use the same security settings on all routers (i.e. don't use WPA on one
and WEP on another)
- disable DHCP and NAT from all except your "master" router
- assign channels on nearby access points as far away from each other as
possible, and also avoid being on the same/nearby channels as your
neighbours. Use channels 1, 6 & 13 for starters but also be aware of
what
else is "near" the router i.e. what channels are your neighbours
using?
- ensure the IP addresses of each of the access points ( /routers) are
unique within your network (they'll often default to a .250-something
address.
- just ignore any bleating from the router saying that it can't find an
ADSL/cable connection
It works well for me. One network name, and devices connect to the access
point which gives the best signal. I *presume* devices roam as we don't see
any drop-outs when moving around the house! Having a single SSID means
users
don't need to switch between wireless networks as they move around.
All access points are connected to a wired network - they don't operate in
"repeater" mode (or whatever it's called :-) )
HTH,
Tim.
On 25 February 2014 08:42, Nicholas Humfrey <njh@xxxxxxx> wrote:
On 25 Feb 2014, at 01:33, "Dave McLaughlin" <dave@xxxxxxx>
wrote:
I've done this with Netgear routers. I can't recall the exact steps, but it
was about setting different channels and a few other configurations but it
does work. Much easier than my original setup with a different name. It
doesn't move from point to point so well but the same AP does.
I did a Google search on it. Tons of stuff on how to do this.
Could you be more specific on this Dave?
Would love to know the name of the protocol/standard that enables this
functionality, so I can look out for it when buying APs.
nick.
From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Nicholas Humfrey
Sent: 24 February 2014 06:29
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [ukha_d] RE: Wireless Access Points?
If you have more then one access point in a house, a really nice feature to
have is roaming - so you can move about the house and devices
automatically/
quickly move from one AP to another without dropping network connections.
This is a very common feature on 'enterprise' networks but less common in
homes. If you setup Apple APs with a network with the same name and
security
setting, you can seamlessly move between them. I believe that the APs talk
to each other over the wired network to achieve this. I haven't had much
success with other brands of network hardware - such as Netgear.
nick.
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<div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><a
name="_MailEndCompose"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Tim
has basically detailed what I did. Disabling DHCP was the part I missed at
first. Your master router should handle
this.<o:p></o:p></span></a></p><p
class=MsoNormal><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p
class=MsoNormal><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Dave…<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p
class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>---<o:p></o:p></span></p><p
class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-ser
if"'>Very funny Scotty, now beam down my
clothes…<o:p></o:p></span></p><p
class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>---<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p
class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font
-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div
style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm
0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx] <b>On Behalf
Of </b>Tim Hawes<br><b>Sent:</b> 25 February 2014
17:41<br><b>To:</b>
ukha_d@xxxxxxx<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ukha_d] RE:
Wireless Access
Points?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p
class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p
class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div
id=ygrp-mlmsg>
;<div id=ygrp-msg><div id=ygrp-text><div><p
class=MsoNormal>I'm doing this currently with a mixed collection of
routers (Vigor, BT Home Hub 2 and a Belkin
one).<o:p></o:p></p><div><p
class=MsoNormal>From memory the general process
is:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p
class=MsoNormal>- use the same SSID
and passphrase on all
routers<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p
class=MsoNormal>- use the same security settings on all routers (i.e.
don't use WPA on one and WEP on
another)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p
class=MsoNormal>- disable DHCP and NAT from all except your
"master"
router<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p
class=MsoNormal>- assign channels on nearby access points as far away
from each other as possible, and also avoid being on the same/nearby
channels as your neighbours. Use channels 1, 6 & 13 for starters
but also be aware of what else is "near" the router i.e.
what channels are your neighbours
using?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p
class=MsoNormal>- ensure the IP addresses of each of the access points (
/routers) are unique within your network (they'll often default to a
.250-something address.<o:p></o:p></p><
/div><div><p class=MsoNormal>- just ignore any bleating from
the router saying that it can't find an ADSL/cable
connection<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p c
lass=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p
class=MsoNormal>It works well for me. One network name, and devices
connect to the access point which gives the best signal. I *presume*
devices roam as we don't see any drop-outs when moving around the house!
Having a single SSID means users don't need to switch between wireless
networks as they move
around.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p
class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p
class=MsoNormal>All access points are connected to a wired network -
they don't operate in "repeater" mode (or whatever it's
called :-) )<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p
class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p
class=MsoNormal>HTH,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p
class=MsoNormal>Tim.<o:p></o:p></p></div>&l
t;div><p
class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p
class=MsoNormal
style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p
class=MsoNormal>On 25 February 2014 08:42, Nicholas Humfrey
<<a href="mailto:njh@xxxxxxx"; tar
get="_blank">njh@xxxxxxx</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p
class=MsoNormal
style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p
class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p
class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On 25 Feb 2014,
at 01:33, "Dave McLaughlin" <<a href="mailto:dave@xxxxxxx";
target="_blank">dave@xxxxxxx</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote
style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p
class=MsoNormal>
<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p
class=MsoNormal
style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><a
name="144683826c72a477__MailEndCompose"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>I've done this with Netgear r
outers. I can't recall the exact steps, but it was about setting different
channels and a few other configurations but it does work. Much easier than
my original setup with a different name. It doesn't move from point to
point so well but the same AP does.</span></a><o:p></
o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal
style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p
class=MsoNormal
style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>I did a Google search on it. Tons of stuff on
how to do
this.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></blockquote></div><div><p
class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><div><p
class=MsoNormal>Could you be more specific on this
Dave?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p
class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p
class=MsoNormal>Would love to know the name of the protocol/standard
that enables this functionality, so I can look out for it when buying
APs.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class
=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p
class=MsoNormal>nick.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><p
class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p
class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p
class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><
div><div><div><div><div><div
style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm
0cm'><p class=MsoNormal
style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt'>From:</span></b><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt'> <a href="mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx";
target="_blank">ukha_d@xxxxxxx</a> [<a href="mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx";
target="_blank">mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Nicholas
Humfrey<br><b>Sent:</b> 24 February 2014
06:29<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx";
target="_blank">ukha_d@xxxxxxx</a>&
lt;br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ukha_d] RE: Wireless Access
Points?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p
class=MsoNormal
style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p
class=MsoNormal
style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>
<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><p
class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-al
t:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>If you have more then one access
point in a house, a really nice feature to have is roaming - so you can
move about the house and devices automatically/ quickly move from one AP to
another without dropping network connections. This is a very common feature
on 'enterprise' networks but less common in homes. If you setup Apple APs
with a network with the same name and security setting, you can seamlessly
move between them. I believe that the APs talk to each other over the wired
network to achieve this. I haven't had much success with other brands of
network hardware - such as
Netgear.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p
class=MsoNormal
style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p
class=MsoNormal
style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>nick.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></d
iv></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><p
class=MsoNormal><span style='color:whi
te'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p
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style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>No virus
found in this message.<br>Checked by AVG - <a href="http://www.avg.com";>www.avg.com</a><br>Version:
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