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I should have added to that (extensive) list of things I don=E2=80=99t
want=
to do=E2=80=A6 is to re-encode 700 DVD=E2=80=99s!!
=20
The reason I kept them in native format is to preserve the original
datastr=
eam to maintain the original quality of the DVD in the rip
=20
J
=20
Paul G.
=20
=20
From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx] On Behalf Of B=
en McCormack
Sent: 03 November 2013 11:10
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
Cc: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [ukha_d] What's currently the best box for streaming ripped
DV=
D content?
=20
Paul
=20
What about running them through Handbreak and putting them into a format
th=
at iTunes recognises. You can then import into iTunes are stream to Apple
T=
V, ipad etc etc.
=20
Ben
Sent from my iPad
On 3 Nov 2013, at 03:10, Paul Gordon <paul_gordon@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Thanks all for the responses so far.
=20
I have been ripping DVDs to VOB files in video_ts folders for many years
no=
w. I don't have any blu-ray rips, - I had no inclination to start
buying/re=
nting yet another optical disc format.. So I have some 600-700 odd movies
r=
ipped from DVD. I therefore don't care about the ability to play anything
e=
lse, including 1080p as I don't have any content in that format, and to be
=
truthful, although it does look nice, I'm not sufficiently impressed by
the=
resolution improvement to make a switch to blu-ray, with all the extra sp=
ace that requires... Frankly, I'm more concerned with the 'quality' of the
=
movie itself (acting, dialogue, FX, script, cinematography etc.) I'd far
ra=
ther watch a 'good' film in DVD quality than a shite film (anything by
Mich=
ael Bay??) in high res...
=20
They're all on a QNAP NAS, which does have a plex client available, which
I=
did try (with plex client on Apple TV). It looked lovely, and all seemed f=
ine until trying to actually play something... It will not play my
content.=
.. I presume it does not like video_ts folders.
=20
PC based solutions are not desirable, regardless of whether it's running
wi=
ndows or Linux, or even a mac... I don't want power hungry devices or fans
=
running all the time. It needs to be a small box, totally silent (no fan)
a=
nd very low power.
=20
It needs to have an attractive user friendly UI, with cover art, and
ideall=
y movies synopsies, in a simple to navigate interface. As I said before,
IM=
O the native Apple TV one is the best I've seen yet, so the closest it's
po=
ssible to get to that would be my ideal.
=20
Still looking...
Sent from my iPad
On 3 Nov 2013, at 07:28, "Robin Edwards" <robin@xxxxxxx>
wrote:
I'm using Popcornhour C200 seems to do the job for me. There's a newer
mod=
el not sure how it improves on the C200. I originally had all my mkvs
alon=
g with my flacs on a bubba2 however it only had a 1TB hard drive and was
cl=
ose to full. I put a 2TB drive in the popcorn and moved the mkvs onto it.=
=20
=20
It has a reasonable UI including info and art from imdb. I have played
mp3=
s on it as well but only to see if they work.
=20
I make my mkvs with Handbrake on Mint and move over with filezilla, just a
=
simple setup
=20
Robin
There are three kinds of people in this world, those that can count and
tho=
se that can't.
=20
Robin Edwards
07773-674010
=20
On 2 Nov 2013, at 19:59, Paul Gordon <paul_gordon@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Thanks. I'll look into the dune offerings.... Of equal interest as the
play=
back of my chosen format, is the UI... the *perfect* UI is the Apple TV
one=
... Nothing else comes close... So many of the other streamer boxes I've
se=
en have a shite file explorer like interface... No cover art, no metadata,
=
etc...
=20
I've seen and used xbmc in the past, and liked it, but I will not have a
PC=
involved in the setup.
=20
Not played with rpi... Not interested in cobbling together DIY
solutions...=
I want something I can buy, unwrap, plug in, and watch movies...
=20
Looked at plex, but try as I might, I absolutely could not get it to play
r=
ipped DVDs although the interface did look jolly nice.
Sent from my iPad
On 2 Nov 2013, at 20:38, "Brian Smith" <brian@xxxxxxx>
wrote:
Hi Paul
=20
I have a couple of Dune players (a 101 and 301) and they have played
everyt=
hing I have asked them to. Never quite got around to it but they also
supp=
ort control via the mymovies iPad app if that's of interest.
=20
If there is any you want me to try file format / bit rate wise then let me
=
know.
=20
Cheers
=20
Brian
On 2 Nov 2013, at 19:10, Paul Gordon <paul_gordon@xxxxxxx> wrote:
=20=20
Ok, so I'm sitting here looking at my jailbroken Apple TV2 contstantly
sayi=
ng "Loading"... 15 minutes now and impatient kids waiting for
Star Wars,...=
Another 5 minutes and it's going out of this 2nd floor window.... Like pre=
tty much anything that isn't genuine apple, it's utter shite...=20
The software is slow, buggy, and not a patch on the real thing... If I
coul=
d I'd just go to iTunes and pay for the damn movie (again) just to get the
=
media I want when I want it, but unfortunately, the Star Wars films aren't
=
on iTunes... They are all on my NAS of course, as ripped DVD's in video_ts
=
folders... So sick am I of the piss poor performance of jailbroken kit,
tha=
t I am now resolved to find another box that does this better...
So, the question is, what *is* the best box for streaming my own personal
c=
ontent? Most of the front runners don't do it... I tried a windows PC for
a=
couple of years, - I'm never going down that route again... Roku doesn't d=
o local content... Apple TV doesn't do it without jail breaking, and doing
=
that to it turns it into a pile of shite...
Surely in this day and age, it cannot be beyond the wit of mankind to make
=
a box that is as good as a proper Apple TV, but which will play my ripped
D=
VD's... Is that really so much to ask?
Sent from my iPad
> On 28 Oct 2013, at 09:32, "Mark McCall"
<lists@xxxxxxx> wrote=
:
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> http://autoho.me/1aOd65H
>=20
> M.
>=20
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> ------------------------------------
>=20
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> Yahoo! Groups Links
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<div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span
style=3D'font-size:11.=
0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I
should have added t=
o that (extensive) list of things I don=E2=80=99t want to do=E2=80=A6 is
to=
re-encode 700
DVD=E2=80=99s!!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p
class=3DMsoNormal><s=
pan
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F4=
97D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The
reason I k=
ept them in native format is to preserve the original datastream to
maintai=
n the original quality of the DVD in the
rip<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=
=3DMsoNormal><span
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-se=
rif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D'>J</span><spa=
n
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0=
pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></spa=
n></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cal=
ibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Paul
G.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DM=
soNormal><span
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"=
;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p
class=3DMsoNormal><span styl=
e=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:=
p> </o:p></span></p><div><div
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B=
5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p
class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=
=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:=
</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma=
","sans-serif"'> ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx] <b>=
On Behalf Of </b>Ben McCormack<br><b>Sent:</b> 03
November 2013 11:10<br><b=
>To:</b> ukha_d@xxxxxxx<br><b>Cc:</b>
ukha_d@xxxxxxx<br><b>=
Subject:</b> Re: [ukha_d] What's currently the best box for streaming
rippe=
d DVD
content?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&=
nbsp;</o:p></p><p
class=3DMsoNormal><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><p
clas=
s=3DMsoNormal>Paul<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> =
;</o:p></p></div><div><p
class=3DMsoNormal>What about running them through =
Handbreak and putting them into a format that iTunes recognises. You can
th=
en import into iTunes are stream to Apple TV, ipad etc
etc.<o:p></o:p></p><=
/div><div><p
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p
class=3DM=
soNormal>Ben<br><br>Sent from my
iPad<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p
class=3DM=
soNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On 3 Nov 2013, at
03:10, Paul G=
ordon <<a href=3D"mailto:paul_gordon@xxxxxxx";>paul_gordon@xxxxxxx=
m</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;=
margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p
class=3DMsoNormal>Thanks all for the resp=
onses so far.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:=
p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I have
been ripping DVDs to VOB files=
in video_ts folders for many years now. I don't have any blu-ray rips, - I=
had no inclination to start buying/renting yet another optical disc format=
.. So I have some 600-700 odd movies ripped from DVD. I therefore don't
car=
e about the ability to play anything else, including 1080p as I don't have
=
any content in that format, and to be truthful, although it does look
nice,=
I'm not sufficiently impressed by the resolution improvement to make a swi=
tch to blu-ray, with all the extra space that requires...
Frankly, I'=
m more concerned with the 'quality' of the movie itself (acting, dialogue,
=
FX, script, cinematography etc.) I'd far rather watch a 'good' film in DVD
=
quality than a shite film (anything by Michael Bay??) in high
res...<o:p></=
o:p></p></div><div><p
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p
=
class=3DMsoNormal>They're all on a QNAP NAS, which does have a plex
client =
available, which I did try (with plex client on Apple TV). It looked
lovely=
, and all seemed fine until trying to actually play something... It will
no=
t play my content... I presume it does not like video_ts
folders.<o:p></o:p=
></p></div><div><p
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p
cla=
ss=3DMsoNormal>PC based solutions are not desirable, regardless of
whether =
it's running windows or Linux, or even a mac... I don't want power hungry
d=
evices or fans running all the time. It needs to be a small box, totally
si=
lent (no fan) and very low
power.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p
class=3DMsoNo=
rmal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p
class=3DMsoNormal>It needs to have =
an attractive user friendly UI, with cover art, and ideally movies
synopsie=
s, in a simple to navigate interface. As I said before, IMO the native
Appl=
e TV one is the best I've seen yet, so the closest it's possible to get to
=
that would be my
ideal.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>=
</o:p></p></div><div><p
class=3DMsoNormal>Still looking...<o:p></o:p>=
</p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><br>Sent
from my iPad<o:p></o:p></p></d=
iv><div><p class=3DMsoNormal
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On 3 Nov 20=
13, at 07:28, "Robin Edwards" <<a
href=3D"mailto:robin@jingle.=
plus.com">robin@xxxxxxx</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockqu=
ote
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p
class=3DMso=
Normal>I'm using Popcornhour C200 seems to do the job for me.
There's=
a newer model not sure how it improves on the C200. I originally
had=
all my mkvs along with my flacs on a bubba2 however it only had a 1TB hard=
drive and was close to full. I put a 2TB drive in the popcorn and
mo=
ved the mkvs onto
it. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p
class=3DMsoNormal><=
o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p
class=3DMsoNormal>It has a reasonable UI =
including info and art from imdb. I have played mp3s on it as
well bu=
t only to see if they
work.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p
class=3DMsoNormal><=
o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p
class=3DMsoNormal>I make my mkvs with Han=
dbrake on Mint and move over with filezilla, just a simple
setup<o:p></o:p>=
</p></div><div><p
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p
clas=
s=3DMsoNormal
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Robin<o:p></o:p></p><div><p
cl=
ass=3DMsoNormal>There are three kinds of people in this world, those
that c=
an count and those that
can't.<o:p></o:p></p></div><p
class=3DMsoNormal><o:=
p> </o:p></p><div><p
class=3DMsoNormal>Robin Edwards<o:p></o:p></p></d=
iv><div><p
class=3DMsoNormal>07773-674010<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p
class=
=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><div><p
class=3DMsoNormal sty=
le=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On 2 Nov 2013, at 19:59, Paul
Gordon <<a=
href=3D"mailto:paul_gordon@xxxxxxx";>paul_gordon@xxxxxxx</a>>
wr=
ote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-botto=
m:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Thanks. I'll
look into the dune off=
erings.... Of equal interest as the playback of my chosen format, is the
UI=
... the *perfect* UI is the Apple TV one... Nothing else comes close... So
=
many of the other streamer boxes I've seen have a shite file explorer like
=
interface... No cover art, no metadata,
etc...<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p
class=3DMsoNormal>I've=
seen and used xbmc in the past, and liked it, but I will not have a PC inv=
olved in the
setup.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbs=
p;</o:p></p></div><div><p
class=3DMsoNormal>Not played with rpi... Not inte=
rested in cobbling together DIY solutions... I want something I can buy,
un=
wrap, plug in, and watch
movies...<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p
class=3DMsoN=
ormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p
class=3DMsoNormal>Looked at plex, =
but try as I might, I absolutely could not get it to play ripped DVDs
altho=
ugh the interface did look jolly
nice.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p
class=3D=
MsoNormal><br><br>Sent from my
iPad<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p
class=3DMso=
Normal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On 2 Nov 2013, at 20:38,
"Br=
ian Smith" <<a href=3D"mailto:brian@xxxxxxx";>brian@xxxxxxx=
.uk</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote
style=3D'margin-top:5.0p=
t;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p
class=3DMsoNormal>Hi Paul<o:p></o:p></p=
></div><div><p
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p
class=
=3DMsoNormal>I have a couple of Dune players (a 101 and 301) and they
have =
played everything I have asked them to. Never quite got around to
it =
but they also support control via the mymovies iPad app if that's of
intere=
st.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></di=
v><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>If there is any you want me to
try file format =
/ bit rate wise then let me
know.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p
class=3DMsoNo=
rmal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p
class=3DMsoNormal>Cheers<o:p></o:p>=
</p></div><div><p
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p
clas=
s=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Brian<br><br>On
2 Nov 2013, at=
19:10, Paul Gordon <<a href=3D"mailto:paul_gordon@xxxxxxx";>paul_gor=
don@xxxxxxx</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote
style=3D'mar=
gin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p
class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></=
o:p></p><div id=3Dygrp-text><p>Ok, so I'm sitting here
looking at my jailbr=
oken Apple TV2 contstantly saying "Loading"... 15 minutes
now and=
impatient kids waiting for Star Wars,... Another 5 minutes and it's going =
out of this 2nd floor window.... Like pretty much anything that isn't
genui=
ne apple, it's utter shite... <br>The software is slow, buggy, and
not a pa=
tch on the real thing... If I could I'd just go to iTunes and pay for the
d=
amn movie (again) just to get the media I want when I want it, but
unfortun=
ately, the Star Wars films aren't on iTunes... They are all on my NAS of
co=
urse, as ripped DVD's in video_ts folders... So sick am I of the piss poor
=
performance of jailbroken kit, that I am now resolved to find another box
t=
hat does this better...<br><br>So, the question is, what *is*
the best box =
for streaming my own personal content? Most of the front runners don't do
i=
t... I tried a windows PC for a couple of years, - I'm never going down
tha=
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