Re: Krone blocks, alarm cable, cat5, etc etc

["ianh1000" <ianh1000@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Ben,

I am pretty sure that is what Paul Gordon (The Disco loo man) did. all
cables from comfort zones out to a patch panel and then other patch panels
for the devices in the house to allow simple changes, it still needs a lot
of wiring in the Comfort box but I guess that could be simpler as you would
just need a couple of wires for each zone with the power run as a common
connection, worth considering.

Regards

--- In ukha_d@xxxxxxx, Ben McCormack <yahoogroup@...> wrote:
>
> Lee
>
> Check back in the archives as I remember someone solving the exact
> problem by using a patch panel to bring the comfort connections out of
> main enclosure.
>
> Regards
> Ben McCormack
>
> On 5 Oct 2009, at 17:41, "leewild80" <muddyboots@...>
wrote:
>
> > Ian
> >
> > I suspect many are in the same boat as me - they generally like
to
> > do a neat job, but when it came to hooking everything up inside
the
> > Comfort box, that went out of the window and they're too
embarrassed
> > to put photos up :)
> >
> > I just have the one enclosure, with the main boards, expansion
> > board, X10 adapter (& coiled up cable), battery, transformer,
all
> > hidden behind a rats nest of alarm cables & connector blocks
from
> > PIRs etc. I think the problem is there's nowhere left to fasten
all
> > the wires or connector blocks to in a tidy fashion.
> >
> > I reckon a more sensible approach might be:
> > Have one enclosure that contains the boards, battery, transformer
etc.
> > Then have a second enclosure that acts as the wiring centre - put
a
> > load of Krone blocks or similar in it, with permanent connections
> > across to all the available input, output, 12v and 0v connections
in
> > the main box. Then do all the messy patching of alarm & cat5
cables
> > into Krone blocks in this box. Gives more space for some sensible
> > cable management - kind of a mini node zero box for Comfort.
> >
> > Lee
> >
> > --- In ukha_d@xxxxxxx, "ianh1000" <ianh1000@>
wrote:
> >> I know we have a lot of comfort users here, does anyone have
some
> >> photos of a very tidy installation? I would really like my
one to
> >> be a bit neater.
> >>
> >> Regards
> >> Ian
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --- In ukha_d@xxxxxxx, Paul Gale <groups2@> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Soldering wire for insertion possibly(?) not a great idea
though
> >>> as solder can flow over time and can cause loose
connections -
> >>> don't know if that'd be an issue here though?
> >>>
> >>> Paul.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx] On
> >>>> Behalf
> >>>> Of ianh1000
> >>>> Sent: 05 October 2009 13:17
> >>>> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> >>>> Subject: [ukha_d] Re: Krone blocks, alarm cable,
cat5, etc etc
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi Lee
> >>>>
> >>>> I have the same challenge with my setup. These look a
neat
> >>>> solution but
> >>>> I doubt they would be reliable with stranded cable, I
guess you
> >>>> could
> >>>> tin the strands with a little solder.
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards
> >>>> Ian
> >>>>
> >>>> --- In ukha_d@xxxxxxx, Paul Gale <groups2@>
wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I would also be interested in this - I have a
similar
> >>>>> arrangement of
> >>>> 3A term blocks (lots!)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Paul.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>> From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx] On
> >>>> Behalf
> >>>>>> Of leewild80
> >>>>>> Sent: 05 October 2009 12:39
> >>>>>> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> >>>>>> Subject: [ukha_d] Krone blocks, alarm cable,
cat5, etc etc
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi all
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I have a Comfort system, with inputs from a
number of PIRs -
> >>>>>> all of
> >>>>>> which share 12v and 0v connections.
> >>>>>> Comfort itself only provides single 12v/0v
connections, so
> >>>> currently I
> >>>>>> have a not-very-ideal setup where the various
PIR wires are
> >>>>>> twisted
> >>>>>> together & shared across several ways in
a 3-amp connector block,
> >>>> and
> >>>>>> in the other side of the connector block I
have daisy chained
> >>>>>> some
> >>>>>> wires across to common them together.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> It works but it's really not ideal, not only
because it's messy
> >>>>>> as
> >>>>>> hell, but screw connectors on stranded wires
are not very
> >>>>>> reliable.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Have been wondering about a better solution
for a while, like
> >>>> connector
> >>>>>> strips with leaf contacts and insulated combs
for commoning
> >>>> together.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> But then I happened across another thread on
here where people
> >>>> mention
> >>>>>> using Krone blocks.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> A bit of searching suggests a couple of Krone
237D blocks might
> >>>>>> be
> >>>> an
> >>>>>> ideal and neat solution - they have a flying
lead that I could
> >>>> connect
> >>>>>> to Comfort's 12v and 0v, and all the
terminals within the block
> >>>>>> are
> >>>>>> commoned together. They even come in red and
black :)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> A few questions if I may:
> >>>>>> 1) Does this seem a sensible idea ?
> >>>>>> 2) I presume I can use the standard
Krone-type punchdown tool
> >>>>>> that
> >>>> I
> >>>>>> bought for wiring cat5 faceplates ?
> >>>>>> 3) Do the blocks work reliably with stranded
6-core alarm cable ?
> >>>>>> 4) Do the blocks work reliably with the solid
cores of cat5e
> >>>>>> cable
> >>>> ?
> >>>>>> 5) And (dumb question) - "normal"
(237A) Krone connectors - are
> >>>>>> terminals on both sides of these linked
across so they act just
> >>>> like a
> >>>>>> connector block ?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks for any help !
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Lee
> >>>>>>
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