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RE: Newbie needs Network / media centre solution!



> You really don't need to go to the expense of running Cat6, cat5e

Just in case I wasn't clear... I mean you can run Gigabit over Cat5e.

Marcus
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From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Marcus
Warrington
Sent: 18 February 2009 09:38
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Newbie needs Network / media centre solution!


Stefan,

>.... should allow me to play 48 Mega Bytes per second movies over it,
is that right?

Sorry, I thought you'd said Blu-Ray was 48MegaBIT , which is about
8MegaBYTE/s.

You really don't need to go to the expense of running Cat6, cat5e is
usually just as capable and far easier to install correctly. Cat6 requires
very careful consideration of radius bends and termination.

Marcus
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From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx<mailto:ukha_d%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx<mailto:ukha_d%40yahoogroups.com>]
On Behalf Of Stefan Gavin
Sent: 17 February 2009 20:20
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx<mailto:ukha_d%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Newbie needs Network / media centre solution!

Hi Marcus thanks for your reply.

I have got totally mixed up with Mega bits and Mega Bytes, but also you say
that a 11-12 Mega Bytes per second network should allow me to play 48 Mega
Bytes per second movies over it, is that right?

When I rennovated the house I should of laid some cat 6 cable around, do
you know what throughput a wired gigabit network using cat6 should give me,
again I was thinking in the region of up to 100 Mega Bytes per second!

Stefan Gavin

(M) 07737 753645
(E) stefangavin@xxxxxxx<mailto:stefangavin%40hotmail.com><mailto:stefangavin%40hotmail.com>

To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx<mailto:ukha_d%40yahoogroups.comFrom><mailto:ukha_d%40yahoogroups.comFrom>:
marcus.warrington@xxxxxxx<mailto:marcus.warrington%40mis-es.comDate><mailto:marcus.warrington%40mis-es.comDate>:
Tue, 17 Feb 2009 15:47:08 +0000Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Newbie needs Network /
media centre solution!

I wouldn't personally rely on wireless for any application that required
high bandwidth or consistent throughput. Its just too susceptible to
external influences and interference. I use wireless (54g) for internet
browsing on a couple of laptops at home, everything else is hardwired
(cat5e 10/100). When I first started using wireless no other access points
where around, but now a few years later there are at least another 6 access
points that get detected. The through put and reliability has also
deteriorated as more neighbours have gone wireless. I seem to remember that
only 3 of the 11 (or 13) channels available are actually unhindered by the
other channels. i.e. 1, 6 and 11 are the ones to use, otherwise you get
interference from the other channels.For streaming any video (and
especially HD) I would recommend you look at a hardwired solution.> I
initially looked into home plug or Ethernet over powerline systems,>
which sounded great at first 200 MB/sI think you'll find tha
t should be 200 Mb/s i.e. Mega bits not Mega Bytes.I'm sure I read a review
that tested these and found its throughput was nearer 11-12 Megabyte a
seconds. That should be adequate for your Blu-Ray (48Mb/s)I think the only
way you'll approach anywhere near 20MB/s is by hard wiring with cat5 or 6
and using Gigabit network cards. AFAIK there's no way you'll achieve
anything like that wirelessly.Marcus > -----Original Message----->
From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx<mailto:ukha_d%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ukha_d%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx<mailto:ukha_d%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ukha_d%40yahoogroups.com>]
On Behalf Of> Stefan Gavin> Sent: 17 February 2009 11:42> To:
ukha_d@xxxxx
xx<mailto:ukha_d%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ukha_d%40yahoogroups.com>>
Subject: [ukha_d] Newbie needs Network / media centre solution!> >
> Hi Guys, I'm after some advice if possible, I am not that technical
so> bare with me...> > Current Home Audio & PC set-up
(Recently sold all my
THX 7.1 system)> > > Desktop Machine (High Spec CAD & Graphics
machine)> 2 X laptop's / Notebooks> Recently completed media Centre
PC Blu-Ray etc> Roksan Kandy L3 amplifier> Spendor S6 floorstanding
speakers> Panasonic Viera 42" 1080P> Samsung 32" 1080P
(Bedroom)> Plus more> > Media Centre is in living room connected
to 42" 1080P set via HDMI and> seems to be running ok minus about
100 niggling problems. I have a> separate media drive in here which
contains a back-up of all my music,> videos and pics from my desktop
machine. (Not Ideal) I like the files> stored locally here so they can
be accessed quickly, and so my movies run> smoothly etc.> >
Desktop machine in the study also with separate 1TB dive contains all
my> media, this drive is where I edit my MP3 tags etc and download my
movies> etc to. I then back it up over a standard wireless network to my
media> centre. I'm getting around 2-4MB/s which again is not ideal.>
; > I recently sent back a Synology DS108J which also w
as only giving me> around 4-5MB/s transfer speed for backing up my
files, which was not> acceptable. I later find out this is common! I was
expecting 40MB/s plus.> > Ideally what I would like is for everything
I own digitally stored on a> large NAS - high speed Gigabit or whatever
and accessible from any machine> at high speeds, this can be done wired
through Gigabit I believe but not> wirelessly. I need it to do it
wirelessly because my media centre is> downstairs. I already have a
wireless N card in my media centre and have> been looking at wireless N
routers with full gigabit connectivity, I am> not 100% sure though that
this will work as I need it to.> > However to play my HD rips or MKV
files smoothly I figure I need a> constant data transfer speed of 20
MB/s which would also make the network> more usable for transferring
files. This would enable me to store> everything on a large NAS with
RAID or mirroring technology for back up -> this would then be acc
essible by any
machine meaning I could play HD> content on any TV in house, but most
importantly on my Viera through my> media centre.> > I am probably
completely going wrong here so please anybody put me right,> but my
understanding is that Blu-Ray has a maximum bitrate of 48 Mbps for> both
video and audio - so if my network could run faster than this then I>
could essentially play Blu-Ray discs over the network (Not that I want
to)> MKV files bitrate is up to around 10Mbps so providing I can get a
faster> speed than this I could play most of my HD compressed films?
This is my> logic anyway...> > I initially looked into home plug
or Ethernet over powerline systems,> which sounded great at first 200
MB/s - perfect I though for playing HD> which it says on the tin, only
to later find out that the connection on> the home plug is standard
10/100 cat5 which made me sceptical, and quite> rightly so as I now
believe I would be lucky to get anymore than 6MB/s> over this type of
system.> > So back
to Wireless N and gigabit systems possibly.> > Any help here would be
very much appreciated????> > Sorry for the length of my
message....> > Stefan Gavin> > (M) 07737 753645> (E)
stefangavin@xxxxxxx<mailto:stefangavin%40hotmail.com><mailto:stefangavin%40hotmail.com>>
> > > > >
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