RE: Newbie needs Network / media centre solution!

[Marcus Warrington <marcus.warrington@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Stefan,

>.... should allow me to play 48 Mega Bytes per second movies over it,
is that right?

Sorry, I thought you'd said Blu-Ray was 48MegaBIT , which is about
8MegaBYTE/s.

You really don't need to go to the expense of running Cat6, cat5e is
usually just as capable and far easier to install correctly. Cat6 requires
very careful consideration of radius bends and termination.

Marcus
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From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Stefan
Gavin
Sent: 17 February 2009 20:20
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Newbie needs Network / media centre solution!


Hi Marcus thanks for your reply.

I have got totally mixed up with Mega bits and Mega Bytes, but also you say
that a 11-12 Mega Bytes per second network should allow me to play 48 Mega
Bytes per second movies over it, is that right?

When I rennovated the house I should of laid some cat 6 cable around, do
you know what throughput a wired gigabit network using cat6 should give me,
again I was thinking in the region of up to 100 Mega Bytes per second!

Stefan Gavin

(M) 07737 753645
(E) stefangavin@xxxxxxx<mailto:stefangavin%40hotmail.com>

To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx<mailto:ukha_d%40yahoogroups.comFrom>:
marcus.warrington@xxxxxxx<mailto:marcus.warrington%40mis-es.comDate>:
Tue, 17 Feb 2009 15:47:08 +0000Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Newbie needs Network /
media centre solution!

I wouldn't personally rely on wireless for any application that required
high bandwidth or consistent throughput. Its just too susceptible to
external influences and interference. I use wireless (54g) for internet
browsing on a couple of laptops at home, everything else is hardwired
(cat5e 10/100). When I first started using wireless no other access points
where around, but now a few years later there are at least another 6 access
points that get detected. The through put and reliability has also
deteriorated as more neighbours have gone wireless. I seem to remember that
only 3 of the 11 (or 13) channels available are actually unhindered by the
other channels. i.e. 1, 6 and 11 are the ones to use, otherwise you get
interference from the other channels.For streaming any video (and
especially HD) I would recommend you look at a hardwired solution.> I
initially looked into home plug or Ethernet over powerline systems,>
which sounded great at first 200 MB/sI think you'll find tha
t should be 200 Mb/s i.e. Mega bits not Mega Bytes.I'm sure I read a review
that tested these and found its throughput was nearer 11-12 Megabyte a
seconds. That should be adequate for your Blu-Ray (48Mb/s)I think the only
way you'll approach anywhere near 20MB/s is by hard wiring with cat5 or 6
and using Gigabit network cards. AFAIK there's no way you'll achieve
anything like that wirelessly.Marcus > -----Original Message----->
From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx<mailto:ukha_d%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx<mailto:ukha_d%40yahoogroups.com>]
On Behalf Of> Stefan Gavin> Sent: 17 February 2009 11:42> To:
ukha_d@xxxxxxx<mailto:ukha_d%40yahoogroups.com>>
Subject: [ukha_d] Newbie needs Network / media centre solution!> >
> Hi Guys, I'm aft
er some advice if possible, I am not that technical so> bare with
me...> > Current Home Audio & PC set-up (Recently sold all my THX
7.1 system)> > > Desktop Machine (High Spec CAD & Graphics
machine)> 2 X laptop's / Notebooks>
Recently completed media Centre PC Blu-Ray etc> Roksan Kandy L3
amplifier> Spendor S6 floorstanding speakers> Panasonic Viera
42" 1080P> Samsung 32" 1080P (Bedroom)> Plus more> >
Media Centre is in living room connected to 42" 1080P set via HDMI
and> seems to be running ok minus about 100 niggling problems. I have
a> separate media drive in here which contains a back-up of all my
music,> videos and pics from my desktop machine. (Not Ideal) I like the
files> stored locally here so they can be accessed quickly, and so my
movies run> smoothly etc.> > Desktop machine in the study also
with separate 1TB dive contains all my> media, this drive is where I
edit my MP3 tags etc and download my movies> etc to. I then back it up
over a standard wireless network to my media> centre. I'm getting around
2-4MB/s which again is not ideal.> > I recently sent back a Synology
DS108J which also was only giving me> around 4-5MB/s transfer speed for
back
ing up my files, which was not> acceptable
. I later find out this is common! I was expecting 40MB/s plus.> >
Ideally what I would like is for everything I own digitally stored on a>
large NAS - high speed Gigabit or whatever and accessible from any
machine> at high speeds, this can be done wired through Gigabit I
believe but not> wirelessly. I need it to do it wirelessly because my
media centre is> downstairs. I already have a wireless N card in my
media centre and have> been looking at wireless N routers with full
gigabit connectivity, I am> not 100% sure though that this will work as
I need it to.> > However to play my HD rips or MKV files smoothly I
figure I need a> constant data transfer speed of 20 MB/s which would
also make the network> more usable for transferring files. This would
enable me to store> everything on a large NAS with RAID or mirroring
technology for back up -> this would then be accessible by any machine
meaning I could play HD> content on any TV in house, but most
importantly on my
Viera throu
gh my> media centre.> > I am probably completely going wrong here
so please anybody put me right,> but my understanding is that Blu-Ray
has a maximum bitrate of 48 Mbps for> both video and audio - so if my
network could run faster than this then I> could essentially play
Blu-Ray discs over the network (Not that I want to)> MKV files bitrate
is up to around 10Mbps so providing I can get a faster> speed than this
I could play most of my HD compressed films? This is my> logic
anyway...> > I initially looked into home plug or Ethernet over
powerline systems,> which sounded great at first 200 MB/s - perfect I
though for playing HD> which it says on the tin, only to later find out
that the connection on> the home plug is standard 10/100 cat5 which made
me sceptical, and quite> rightly so as I now believe I would be lucky to
get anymore than 6MB/s> over this type of system.> > So back to
Wireless N and gigabit systems possibly.> > Any help here would be v
ery much appreciated????> >
Sorry for the length of my message....> > Stefan Gavin> > (M)
07737 753645> (E) stefangavin@xxxxxxx<mailto:stefangavin%40hotmail.com>>
> > > > >
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