Fw: Re: Anyone here use Z-Wave, and specifically with a Comfort ZWave UCM ?

["noughtomate" <balraj_jassal@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

I think so, but don't know so.

I could try to check for you this evening, but with a screaming
baby, toddler (and wife) it'll be difficult for me to give you a
prompt response!

See page 9 here :
http://www.cytech.biz/Downloads/Files/197/ZWaveman.pdf

What I don't know if these counters are invoked by genuine Comfort
events and Status checks or just Status checks.  Chiu on the Comfort
forums should be able to give you a more speedy response. They may
still be awake now : Try 0808 234 4689. Ask specifically for Chiu as
he's-da-man.


Even if the status were not stored in an internal variable, you
could manually store it in a Comfort counter variable.  What you
wouldn't be able to capture is the light % level for a dimmable
device, which is the advantage of the Status check.

Sorry, not trying to fob you off, but time and kids makes it
difficult for me to check Comfort. (Hence why I'm not live with it!)

Cheers,

Balraj
--- In ukha_d@xxxxxxx, Gareth Cook <g@...> wrote:
>
> OK
>
> So if Comfort is only controlling z-wave devices - how does it
store the
> status of a z-wave device ? How does it know ?
>
> For the CBUS UCM, counters store the live status of any cbus
device - no
> need to send out a query command.
>
>
> Hi,
>
> On the status of the device, I guess it comes down to how you use
> it.
>
> If it is ONLY controlled by Comfort, then potentially Comfort will
> always be aware of it's state. If however, it is controlled
locally
> or via a remote, then Comfort I  will be out of sync with it's
state.
>
> The Comfort Z-Wave command set allows you to check the status of
all
> or one specific Z-Wave device using a single command. You could
use
> this command before any 'Fire to Z-Wave device X' to see if the
fire
> command is necessary or to perform some other state based
activity.
> As I said, I'm not using this live and have only been testing it
> using the Comfort Control pad... (I only have 2 controllers so
far!)
> I don't think the status check takes any time. It's just an
> additional step you may need to consider in your Comfort
> programming.
>
> On the noise front - firstly X-10 ... Tell me about it!
>
> The Z-Wave devices do make a noise but not as loud. All I can
advise
> is to try it out.
>
> In order of noisiest to quietest I would say :
>  X10 (old generation) -> X10 ^2 (new generation) -> Z-Wave
>
> ... but only marginally.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> I think I need to get my a7se in gear and finally implment it.
I've
> been sitting with this UCM far too long without using it!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Balraj
>
>
>
> --- In ukha_d@xxxxxxx, Gareth Cook <g@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Balraj
> >
> > With the modules, do you have to query them to get the status,
or
> does
> > Comfort always know the status of any given zwave module ?
> >
> > Also, the on/off modules (not dimmer) - how loud is the local
> relay on the
> > device ? Old X10 units are very loud, and the new ones are
better -
>  but
> > how loud are the zwave units ?
> >
> > TIA
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Gareth,
> >
> > I have the Z-Wave UCM and a few modules, but I've only
> experimented
> > with it. None of the modules are actually live yet... I do plan
to
> > eventually upgrade from my X-10 modules.
> >
> > I was one of the first to start up with Z-Wave on Comfort so I
got
> a
> > fair bit of support from Chiu @ Cytech.
> >
> > My understanding is that the command structure is loosly based
on
> > RS232, but these are obviously not exposed using the Comfort
> Action
> > codes. It's fairly straight forward to set up. The only trouble
I
> > found was identify the device Id for any given module, when my
> > Harmony remote hides this during set up. So it was a little
trial
> > and error before I Comfort found the modules, but thereafter I
was
> > able to control on/off/dimming and sense check the status of any
> > give module.
> >
> > I'm not familar with the C-Bus command strings, but I'd think
they
> > should be similar.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Balraj
> >
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