Re: Lighting Options ....

["rb_ziggy" <rb.lists@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Paul

Thanks.  We were fortunate enough to install X10 from scratch when we
built.  At that we star wired the lights to the DIN cabinets with the
switches on separate twin cable. I'd sort of hoped I could use this
wiring for CBus. (I confess I hadn't seriously looked into what it
takes at the switch for CBus). It sounds from your note that this
isn't realistic!

I also installed paired  cat5 runs to some but not all light witch
positions (at the time I envisaged perhaps fitting control screens in
some places and have indeed done one in the kitchen).  However as the
cat5 is not universal to the switches it sounds like I'd have to
retrofit where its not in place already.  I spent ages speccing out
the wiring originally and still not enough.


--- In ukha_d@xxxxxxx, "Paul Gale" <groups2@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Richard,
>
> I did indeed replace the X10 with CBus - but it wasn't a simple job.
When I installed the X10 system, we did a retro-install and changed a
lot of the house wiring. We had to modify a fair bit of this to
accommodate the new CBus install. Running Cat5/CBus cable could also
be an issue - we used a mix of existing Cat5 (that I'd previously run
to some light switches and also a lot of new pink CBus cable. So
unfortunately, it's not a simple swap X10 for CBus install :(
>
> Ben here on the list did the work for me - took about 5 x 12 hr days
to do it. The system is not yet fully complete - the loft conversion
will also be added in shortly - this has 2 x high wire LV systems,
bathroom LV lights, 6 x 5A dedicated lighting sockets and 3 x sets of
RGB LED stainless steel floor marker lights (controllable via DMX).
>
> HTH a bit?
>
> Paul.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx] On Behalf
> > Of rb_ziggy
> > Sent: 15 January 2008 23:45
> > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> > Subject: [ukha_d] Re: Lighting Options ....
> >
> > Paul
> >
> > Did you replace the X10 with CBus?  I've an X10 based system
using DIN
> >  modules with momentary wall switches and was wondering if its
> > possible to switch to X10 without massive rewiring (i.e.
hopefully
> > switch out the X10 modules for CBus ones in the cabinets.
> >
> > I'd be interested in your experiences.
> >
> > Richard
> >
> > --- In ukha_d@xxxxxxx, "Paul Gale" <groups2@>
wrote:
> > >
> > > I have CBus here too now (for the last 3-4 months) -
reasonably big
> > install (although not quite on the Wembley scale!) as it does
every
> > light in the house plus bedside lamps, fans etc etc. Also VERY
good
> > for automation if you want to go down that route - I have mine
talking
> > to HomeVision HA controller and xAP protocol via one of Kevin
Hawkins'
> > EXCELLENT CBus/xAP/HV gateways :)
> > >
> > > I used to have a whole house X10 system using AD10's and
LD11's but
> > decided to replace it with CBus as the X10 was a bit unreliable
at
> > times.
> > >
> > > CBUS = HIGHLY RECOMMENDED! :)
> > >
> > > Paul.
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx] On
> > Behalf
> > > > Of Rob Mouser
> > > > Sent: 14 January 2008 09:42
> > > > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> > > > Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Lighting Options ....
> > > >
> > > > I have to echo the comments on C-bus. We have two
houses with C-
> > bus.
> > > > The
> > > > oldest install is now more than 5 years old and has
NEVER missed a
> > > > beat.
> > > > Its simple enough to install and configure yourself
(provided your
> > > > competent with electrics and of course Part P bla bla
bla) and is
> > rock
> > > > solid.
> > > > Also once you've had the benefit of PIR, Light Level
sensors etc
> > and
> > > > also scene's you'll never quite bring yourself to use a
rocker
> > switch
> > > > or
> > > > rotary dimmer <shudder> :-)
> > > >
> > > > Rob
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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