Re: Pandora :-(

["Paul Bendall" <paul@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Only way would be to find a proxy server in the US so that requests
to Pandora come from a US registered IP address.

Paul

--- In ukha_d@xxxxxxx, "Ho Yin Ng" <architect.hoyin@...>
wrote:
>
> Yes I got it as well.
>
> Anyway we can get around it?
>
> Ho Yin
>
> On 08/01/2008, Mark McCall <lists@...> wrote:
> >
> >   Thanks Tim
> >
> > M.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx <ukha_d%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:
> > ukha_d@xxxxxxx <ukha_d%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of
> > Tim Hawes
> > Sent: 08 January 2008 08:22
> > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx <ukha_d%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Pandora :-(
> >
> > Not at all :-)
> > I did look to see if it was on Pandora's site as well, but
couldn't seem
> > to
> > find it. I'll send you the original version off list as that
might display
> > better (logos etc.)
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Tim.
> >
> > On 1/8/08, Mark McCall
<lists@...<lists%40automatedhome.co.uk>>
> > wrote:
> > > Tim
> > >
> > > Do you mind if I post a copy of that email to AH ?
> > >
> > > M.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx <ukha_d%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:
> > ukha_d@xxxxxxx <ukha_d%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf
> > > Of Tim
> > > Sent: 07 January 2008 23:27
> > > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx <ukha_d%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Subject: [ukha_d] Pandora :-(
> > >
> > > Anyone else get this email from Pandora?
> > >
> > > :-(
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Tim.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ---
> > >
> > > Quote:
> > >
> > > This is an email I hoped I would never have to send.
> > >
> > > As you probably know, in July of 2007 we had to block usage
of
Pandora
> > > outside the U.S. because of the lack of a viable license
structure for
> > > Internet radio streaming in other countries. It was a
terrible
day. We
> > > did however hold out some hope that a solution might exist
for
the UK,
> > > so we left it unblocked as we worked diligently with the
rights
> > > organizations to negotiate an economically workable license
fee. After
> > > over a year of trying, this has proved impossible. Both the
PPL (which
> > > represents the record
> > > labels) and the MCPS/PRS Alliance (which represents music
publishers)
> > > have demanded per track performance minima rates which are
far
too
> > > high to allow ad supported radio to operate and so, hugely
> > > disappointing and depressing to us as it is, we have to
block
the last
> > territory outside of the US.
> > >
> > > Based upon the IP address from which you recently visited
Pandora, it
> > > appears that you are listening from the UK. If you are, in
fact,
> > > listening from the US, please contact Pandora Support:
> > pandora-support@... <pandora-support%40pandora.com>.
> > >
> > > It continues to astound me and the rest of the team here
that
the
> > > industry is not working more constructively to support the
growth of
> > > services that introduce listeners to new music and that are
totally
> > > supportive of paying fair royalties to the creators of
music.
I don't
> > > often say such things, but the course being charted by the
labels and
> > > publishers and their representative organizations is nothing
short of
> > > disastrous for artists whom they purport to represent - and
by
that I
> > > mean both well known and indie artists. The only consequence
of
> > > failing to support companies like Pandora that are
attempting
to build
> > > a sustainable radio business for the future will be the
continued
> > > explosion of piracy, the continued constriction of
opportunities for
> > > working musicians, and a worsening drought of new music for
fans. As a
> > former working musician myself, I find it very troubling.
> > >
> > > We have been told to sign these totally unworkable license
rates or
> > > switch off, non-negotiable...so that is what we are doing.
Streaming
> > > illegally is just not in our DNA, and we have to take the
threats of
> > > legal action seriously. Lest you think this is solely an
international
> > > problem, you should know that we are also fighting for our
survival
> > > here in the US, in the face of a crushing increase in web
radio
> > > royalty rates, which if left unchanged, would mean the end
of
Pandora.
> > >
> > > We know what an epicenter of musical creativity and fan
support the UK
> > > has always been, which makes the prospect of not being able
to
launch
> > > there and having to block our first listeners all the more
upsetting for
> > us.
> > >
> > > We know there is a lot of support from listeners and artists
in the UK
> > > for Pandora and remain hopeful that at some point we'll get
beyond
> > > this. We're going to keep fighting for a fair and workable
rate
> > > structure that will allow us to bring Pandora back to you.
We'll be
> > > sure to let you know if Pandora becomes available in the UK.
There may
> > > well come a day when we need to make a direct appeal for
your
support
> > > to move for governmental intervention as we have in the US.
In
the
> > > meantime, we have no choice but to turn off service to the
UK.
> > >
> > > Pandora will stop streaming to the UK as of January 15th,
2008.
> > >
> > > Again, on behalf of all of us at Pandora, I'm very, very
sorry.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -Tim Westergren
> > > (Pandora founder)
> > >
> > > End quote
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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