Re: Re: An end to high-energy bulbs

[Chris Hunter <cjhunter@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

but who's going to pay to replace all the light-fittings which
won't=20=20
take CFLs ... in our current house, that's about thirty-something=20=20
fittings, including the under-cupboard & in-cupboard ones, plus
the=20=20
shaver-light-transformer units, plus several dimmer units ...=20=20
including not only the cost of the units, the cost of the new bulbs,=20=20
the cost of electrician, and the cost of redecoration ... what's the=20=20
pay-back time ... in =A3=A3=A3s and in CO2 (not forgetting all teh
embedded=
=20=20
CO2) ... ???

If the case for doing it is so good, financially &
environmentally,=20=20
wouldn't we just do it ... ?

Chris


On 28 Sep 2007, at 12:53, Paul Bendall wrote:

> Chris,
>
> For once I don't necessarily agree with you. Why do so many people use
> 100W bulbs when a 40W is more than adequate for most tasks? Why do so
> many people use the big floodlights in the garden and leave them on
> all evening.
>
> Electricity is a very inefficient source of energy and using
> alternatives to halogen or incandescent bulbs would save a lot of
> energy.
>
> However, where I start to agree with you is the whole nanny state
> approach. I would rather see the government insetify the market so it
> becomes more attractive to buy a LED or CFL.
>
> In some situations an Incandescent can be more efficient than a
> Fluorescent. I'm thinking of garage lights where they are on for less
> than a minute. The current needed to start the fluroescent will outway
> the savings in such a short time.
>
> Paul
> --- In ukha_d@xxxxxxx, Chris Hunter <cjhunter@...> wrote:
>>
>> 'tis difficult to believe anyone has really done the sums ... why
> do
>> we listen to & believe these green campaigners ... if the
> difference
>> was so real, CFLs would sell themselves ... the reality, for us,
>> anyway, is they have their place, but their useful life is usually
>> much less than seems to be assumed, and they don't always fit, or
>> work (as with dimmers), etc.   If only they were held accountable
> for
>> what they are forcing us to do !
>>
>> Chris