Re: Fibre Optice Advice

["nigeldivers" <nigel.divers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Thanks Tim (and everyone else for the feedback),

I will take you up on your offer and contact off-list for more
information.

Meanwhile, back to 'Lennie Lightwave's Guide to Fiber Optics'!

Nigel

--- In ukha_d@xxxxxxx, "Tim Hawes" <timsyahoo@...> wrote:
>
> Nigel,
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> I've specified/bought pre-terminated fibre before and it's a viable
option
> provided your installation contractor is reliable. In most cases it
was been
> installed without incident, however on one particular site it really
got
> trashed and we had to bring in the supplier  to re-terminate one end
of the
> cable. Make sure you specify a pulling eye & protection for the
"free" end
> of the cable to protect it as it's drawn around the site.
>=20
> I used to specify Dynamode media converters, but like another poster
I've
> changed over to Hirschmann kit a while ago and have been very
pleased with
> it.
>=20
> My rough-n-ready estimate for 4-core fibre is =A3120 for the
terminations
> (8-off) plus =A31/m for the cable, so a 50m run would be in the region
of
> =A3170, plus VAT. I can let you have the supplier and the spec of what
I buy
> if you send me a mail off-list :-)
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> HTH,
>=20
> Tim.
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>=20
> On 2/27/06, Richard Challis <richard@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Nigel,
> >
> > I am installing 12 core and only terminating 6. This is because I
am
> > having
> > about 8 kilometres multimode custom covered in a green sheath to
make it
> > different to other cables at our site. The 5 or so cameras which
are just
> > requiring radial runs as opposed to the 25 plus cameras that near
our
> > fibre
> > ring don't justify cost wise the benefits of doing a run of less
cores.
> > The
> > minimum for the custom coating is 2km.
> >
> > Wadsworth have limited their range, but they are open to phone
calls if
> > you
> > need another sort of cable. What they do stock they are flexible
on price
> > for quantity and so it keeps my budget happy :)
> >
> > Oh and standard saying at this point - I have no interest in
Wadsworth
> > other
> > than being a happy customer.
> >
> > We are getting two reels of 1 KM singlemode and 400 MT multimode
fibre
> > made
> > up pre-terminated for when a FLT driver does something creative
and takes
> > out a fibre. Plus some 6km of the singlemode fibre is going in
our
mine
> > and
> > the main cable route is the same route that the really heavy duty
mine
> > machines drive on.
> >
> > Very tempting to put in one or two runs of fibre at home as I now
have
> > access to the terminating kit and test gear :) But this may be
OTT. But
> > under the "UKHA bargain" rules this is probably a must
have.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Richard
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "nigeldivers" <nigel.divers@...>
> > To: <ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 4:24 PM
> > Subject: [ukha_d] Re: Fibre Optice Advice
> >
> >
> > > Thanks Richard,
> > >
> > > I used to use Wadsworth years ago, back when their catalogue
was
> > > almost a reference bible - now days much more concise
(sadly).
> > >
> > > We only have two legs in this instance so pre-terminated may
be an
> > option.
> > >
> > > Out of interest, are you installing 4 core?
> > >
> > > Nigel
> > >
> > > --- In ukha_d@xxxxxxx, "Richard Challis"
<richard@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I've used www.wadsworth.co.uk
> > > > quite a few times now, best normally to phone them.
> > > >
> > > > I am doing the same as yourself. I have a local IT
company
coming to
> > > site to
> > > > pull in and terminate some fibre. But wadsworth have
quoted me in
> > > the past
> > > > for pre-terminated cables.
> > > >
> > > > Pre-terminated in this in this instance is not
financially
viable as
> > > we have
> > > > quite a few cameras going in. So it's worth getting a
contractor in to
> > > > terminate them.
> > > >
> > > > Using catt5e converters to fibre in the main room this
is
> > > terminating in.
> > > > Running through steel tape armoured fibre cable to a
local
patch box
> > > in a
> > > > small power supply panel. We are putting local 24v AC
and DC power
> > > supplies
> > > > in a small panel below the camera, with a condensation
heater and
> > > > thermostat. Using a Hirschmann spider 4TX/1FX converter
to go from
> > > fibre to
> > > > 10/100 baseT for the camera. http://www.hirschmann.com/ - we get
> > > ours from
> > > > Routeco.
> > > >
> > > > Hope this helps.
> > > >
> > > > Richard
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "nigeldivers" <nigel.divers@>
> > > > To: <ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
> > > > Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 1:59 PM
> > > > Subject: [ukha_d] Fibre Optice Advice
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I have a situation whereby as part of a bigger
installation,
I need
> > to
> > > > > install two IP cameras that exceed 90m (appx
150m). To
overcome the
> > > > > restriction of Cat5, we have chosen to lay Fibre
Optic to these
> > > > > cameras, but here lies my problem:
> > > > >
> > > > > We are happy to lay the fibre, but I am really not
confident
about
> > the
> > > > > termination. Is there anyone on this group that
provides
termination
> > > > > services in the London/Gatwick area, or know of
anywhere
where you
> > can
> > > > > purchase pre-terminated (sounds a bit risky that
one!).
> > > > >
> > > > > Alternatively, any thoughts about supplier
training etc...
> > > > >
> > > > > Any advice greatly appreciated.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cameras will be external, so suspect would need
armoured.
Also, what
> > > > > core would you advise.
> > > > >
> > > > > Many thanks in advance
> > > > >
> > > > > Nigel
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