Re: SATA vs EIDE Hard drives for a file server

["noel_pilot" <HA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi,=20
I found that very article late last night after my post! Looks good
just using XP but I guess there are some performance benefits to be
had using a PCI card to take the strain! Lots more reading to do but
looks like a good way to go about it.  especially as savastore are
selling 300gb sata drives for around =A399! inc vat, takes it down to
=A383 for me based here in the channel islands!!
Cheers for all the help and advice.
Noel

p.s. reccomendations for a suitable motherboard to look at? although
saying that if im using a pci card for the raid which will have the
sata sockets on it i can hopefully use the same VIA EPIA one as
reccomended in the jukebox server article!


--- In ukha_d@xxxxxxx, "christopher purves"
<CHRIS_PURVES@M...> wrote:
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> Jumping in - there was an excellent article I think on toms hardware
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> doing raid 5 with software (win xp). He also has loads of articles
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> raid with pci raid cards.
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> I have always useds pci card based solutions. Its trivial to
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> these- attach drives to the card (this is where the small sata
cables help),=20
> select drives to use in raid card bios, select raid mode (say 5)
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> fromat/partition command - takes hours usually. You are done.
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> If you are buying a card and have some money go for 3-ware. Failing
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> promise. Failiing that any old crap.
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> Chris
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> >From: "noel_pilot" <HA@a...>
> >Reply-To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> >To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> >Subject: [ukha_d] Re: SATA vs EIDE Hard drives for a file server
> >Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 21:59:21 -0000
> >
> >Hi there,
> >thanks for your reply, could you point me towards a good
> >explanation/how to for Raid 5 so's I can read up a bit and learn a
bit
> >about the pros and cons and impacts etc etc
> >Thanks a lot,
> >Noel
> >
> >--- In ukha_d@xxxxxxx, Gerry Duprey <gerry@c...> wrote:
> > > Howdy,
> > >
> > > SATA would be my suggestion.
> > >
> > > The cables are smaller/thinner making it easier to work in
your case
> >and
> > > allowing more airflow around things.  SATA interfaces are
faster
> >than IDE
> > > (though they are both a bit limited by the drive hardware).
> > >
> > > I just recently (well, 6 months ago) built a 2TB video
server/HTPC
> >using 8
> > > 300GB SATA drives.   I am using RAID-5 on them because while
I could
> >re-rip
> > > my 230+ DVDs on it -- who wants to?  It took a month of
evenings to
> >do it.
> > >
> > > The drives have performed flawlessly.  This was my first
SATA
usage (I
> > > usually use SCSI for RAID, but the SCSI drives either
weren't this
> >large or
> > > were ungodly expensive).  Since then I've configured or
helped folks
> > > configure a number of systems using SATA and haven't run
into any
> >problems yet.
> > >
> > > And on the RAID issue, it really isn't that difficult or
problem
> >prone.  If
> > > you value your time at something over $30/hour, it may
really
start to
> > > suggest a way to protect the data (RAID-5, while not great
for
> >databases, is
> > > great for media (video, music, pictures) and allows the
least
amount of
> > > capacity loss to overhead.
> > >
> > > Gerry
> > >
> > > noel_pilot wrote:
> > > > I don't intend to use Raid to be honest, no real need
for it
and the
> > > > complexity and troubles it seems to bring.  All data
small
enough will
> > > > be backed up, e.g. photos and music and other documents
whilst
movies
> > > > will be on DVD discs so can be re-ripped if required.
> > > >
> > > > So.....opinions on IDE vx SATA???
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In ukha_d@xxxxxxx, "christopher purves"
> > > > <CHRIS_PURVES@M...> wrote:
> > > >  > I think the question for raid is sata vs scsi
really. All our
> > > > machines at
> > > >  > work still use scsi for reliability. We would
expect a 5tb
stack
> > > > with scsi
> > > >  > disks to lose 1 disk per year on average. I
imagine with
ata (PATA
> > > > or SATA)
> > > >  > failures are much more frequent.
> > > >  >
> > > >  >
> > > >  > Chris
> > > >  >
> > > >  >
> > > >  >
> > > >  >
> > > >  >
> > > >  >
> > > >  > >From: "noel_pilot" <HA@a...>
> > > >  > >Reply-To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> > > >  > >To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> > > >  > >Subject: [ukha_d] SATA vs EIDE Hard drives
for a file server
> > > >  > >Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 22:17:50 -0000
> > > >  > >
> > > >  > >Hey all,
> > > >  > >Looking to build my first proper file server
similar to
the one in
> > > >  > >Marks guide.
> > > >  > >Hard drives are coming via a friend from the
states so
very nice
> > > >  > >prices e.g. $145 for 320Gb either SATA or
EIDE. (approx =A379!!=
)
> > > >  > >
> > > >  > >Opinions on the benefits or drawbacks of
either method.
> > > >  > >I know SATA has hot swappability but I dont
seem to have seen
> >as many
> > > >  > >caddies available.
> > > >  > >Probably looking eventually at around 6 to 8
drives for around
> >2Tb!
> > > >  > >Thanks all,
> > > >  > >Noel
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