RE: [OT] Friday dilemma...

["Dean Barrett" <dean@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Phil

My argument which is probably flawed is that his name and my company's name
on the letter makes it my business.

Personally hand written to him - totally different matter.

Unfortunately there are a number of companies that have taken to sending
circular crap with P & C on the cover.



Dean.


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From: Phil Harris [mailto:phil@xxxxxxx]
Sent: 03 September 2004 20:39
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [ukha_d] [OT] Friday dilemma...



If it's snail mail then I think that it is technically illegal to open
anything that has *HIS* name on it. We had a similar situation at my old
company and I believe that they got their knuckles rapped for opening post
-
the reason I say that I believe they did is that an ex-employee decided to
kick up stink over his post being opened and it all got solicitors involved
and suddenly we heard no more ... Typically if the company "won"
in such a
situation then we'd hear all about it.

Phil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dean Barrett [mailto:dean@xxxxxxx]
> Sent: 03 September 2004 20:11
> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [ukha_d] [OT] Friday dilemma...
>
> Thanks Neil.
>
> This is actually snail mail rather than electronic.
>
> I will be implementing policy to deal with the electronic
> version. This time its physical paper were dealing with.
>
> To date i'm unaware of any mail arriving that i've seen that
> is of a personal nature. I certainly dont believe its luvver
> stuff, as his wife is complaining about the mail being opened
> too, as she works for him !!
>
> The succession plan is coming along nicely, he's being
> trained up at the moment :)
>
> Perhaps i have to much of a supsicious mind, but i hate to
> think of people hiding things from me a work.
>
>
>
>
> Dean.
>
>
>
>   _____
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> From: Neil Fuller [mailto:neil@xxxxxxx]
> Sent: 03 September 2004 20:00
> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [ukha_d] [OT] Friday dilemma...
>
>
> Dean
>
> I'm no lawyer but if this guy is using company provided
> bandwidth to carry
> out personal business, I think you are quite right to take
> issue with that.
>
> However, as you say, it is a dilemma because if the employee
> does generate
> substantial business, probably the last thing you want to do
> is alienate him
> to the extent that he leaves.
>
> It's not unreasonable for him to realise that *any* mail
> coming in to the
> company, via the company provided connection can be deemed to
> be company
> business. The difficulty for you is how to explain that to him.
>
> We all take company provided bandwidth for granted but
> stealing bandwidth
> and carrying on personal business across that connection is
> no different to
> someone picking up the voice 'phone and having long chats
> with friends.
> Maybe explaining it to him using that analogy might work.
>
> A question for you to ask yourself - Why are you concerned
> about this? Are
> you worried that he may be passing on Co confidential info?
> Is he looking
> for another position or are the messages from a *luvver* that he would
> prefer no one knew about!! OTOH, if it's just to make a
> point, is its really
> worth all the ill feeling that this confrontation will elicit?
>
> If it's the luvver scenario, he's just plain stoopid and
> should carry on his
> personal business in a more private manner - Tell him so!!!!!
>
> Good luck on this one coz it is a tough call, especially if
> its a valued
> member of the team.
>
> Finally, if this chap is so valuable, have you got a
> succession plan in
> place to replace him when he retires?
>
> Regards
>
> Neil
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dean Barrett" <dean@xxxxxxx>
> To: <ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 7:26 PM
> Subject: [ukha_d] [OT] Friday dilemma...
>
>
> > This is probably quite contentious depending on where you
> look at it from.
> >
> > I'm having trouble with a guy at work complaining that we
> are opening mail
> > that is address private and confidential.
> >
> > He has Director status in name only, and as MD I have
> informed him that I
> > have a right to view any mail relating to company business
> that arrives at
> > the premises. He informs me that this is illegal...
> >
> > The question is - am I right ???
> >
> > I become immediately suspicious of anyone that believes I
> cannot see mail
> > relating to my company. I will conceed that the girl
> opening mail should
> not
> > open letters marked Private and Confidential, she however
> informs me she
> > never has done. Due to our fairly small size I see all mail when
it
> arrives.
> >
> > This guy is particularly argumentative, and I'm sure its
> age related (60),
> > he has never been comfortable with me running things, but
> he does generate
> a
> > large portion of our revenue so I have to tread fairly
> carefully. Some
> > relief comes from the fact that he's only got a couple of years
till
> > retirement though :)
> >
> > I'm keen not to back down, but by the same token don't want
> to end up in a
> > situation where words like illegal, and tribunal make surface.
> >
> > Any suggestions appreciated...
> >
> > I love work - I spend all day with people that act like
> kids, then get
> home
> > to deal with real ones :(
> >
> >
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> >
> > Dean.
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