Re: [OT] Friday dilemma...

["Neil Fuller" <neil@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

> I get the impression that Dean was talking about snail mail, not
email.

Yeah!! - Sorry - It's Friday and I always chill with a bottle of wine at
the
Friday eveing meal! - hic-burp!

I think the it's the same whether it's snail mail or email though. If he
wants to carry on private business, it should be done in his own time via
his own address.

Cheers

Neil
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sullivan, Glenn" <gsullivan@xxxxxxx>
To: <ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 8:06 PM
Subject: RE: [ukha_d] [OT] Friday dilemma...


> Neil,
>
> I get the impression that Dean was talking about snail mail, not
email.
>
> Dean,
>
> If you are the boss, ditch the kid gloves.  You are going to have to
> replace him soon enough anyway, so start looking, and then rock the
> boat.
>
> If you feel strongly enough about seeing the mail, and it's your
> business, so be it.  If he doesn't like it, tell him that you hope
that
> the door doesn't whack his a$$ to hard on his way out.
>
> But then again, I'm just a coarse American, so that may not be the
> proper way to get things done over there...
>
>
> Glenn Sullivan, MCSE+I  MCDBA
> David Clark Company Inc.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Neil Fuller [mailto:neil@xxxxxxx]
> Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 3:00 PM
> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [ukha_d] [OT] Friday dilemma...
>
> Dean
>
> I'm no lawyer but if this guy is using company provided bandwidth to
> carry out personal business, I think you are quite right to take issue
> with that.
>
> However, as you say, it is a dilemma because if the employee does
> generate substantial business, probably the last thing you want to do
is
> alienate him to the extent that he leaves.
>
> It's not unreasonable for him to realise that *any* mail coming in to
> the company, via the company provided connection can be deemed to be
> company business. The difficulty for you is how to explain that to
him.
>
> We all take company provided bandwidth for granted but stealing
> bandwidth and carrying on personal business across that connection is
no
> different to someone picking up the voice 'phone and having long chats
> with friends.
> Maybe explaining it to him using that analogy might work.
>
> A question for you to ask yourself - Why are you concerned about this?
> Are you worried that he may be passing on Co confidential info? Is he
> looking for another position or are the messages from a *luvver* that
he
> would prefer no one knew about!! OTOH, if it's just to make a point,
is
> its really worth all the ill feeling that this confrontation will
> elicit?
>
> If it's the luvver scenario, he's just plain stoopid and should carry
on
> his personal business in a more private manner - Tell him so!!!!!
>
> Good luck on this one coz it is a tough call, especially if its a
valued
> member of the team.
>
> Finally, if this chap is so valuable, have you got a succession plan
in
> place to replace him when he retires?
>
> Regards
>
> Neil
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dean Barrett" <dean@xxxxxxx>
> To: <ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 7:26 PM
> Subject: [ukha_d] [OT] Friday dilemma...
>
>
> > This is probably quite contentious depending on where you look at
it
> from.
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> > I'm having trouble with a guy at work complaining that we are
opening
> mail
> > that is address private and confidential.
> >
> > He has Director status in name only, and as MD I have informed
him
> that I
> > have a right to view any mail relating to company business that
> arrives at
> > the premises. He informs me that this is illegal...
> >
> > The question is - am I right ???
> >
> > I become immediately suspicious of anyone that believes I cannot
see
> mail
> > relating to my company. I will conceed that the girl opening mail
> should
> not
> > open letters marked Private and Confidential, she however informs
me
> she
> > never has done. Due to our fairly small size I see all mail when
it
> arrives.
> >
> > This guy is particularly argumentative, and I'm sure its age
related
> (60),
> > he has never been comfortable with me running things, but he does
> generate
> a
> > large portion of our revenue so I have to tread fairly carefully.
Some
> > relief comes from the fact that he's only got a couple of years
till
> > retirement though :)
> >
> > I'm keen not to back down, but by the same token don't want to
end up
> in a
> > situation where words like illegal, and tribunal make surface.
> >
> > Any suggestions appreciated...
> >
> > I love work - I spend all day with people that act like kids,
then get
> home
> > to deal with real ones :(
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