RE: OT : Ceramic Floor Tiling

["Rob Mouser" <groups@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Me too, 2 years as owner/MD of an industrial paint factors where we mixed
solvent based pre-cats all day long. You get used to the vapours quite
quickly and you rarely got a blocked nose :-))

Rob

-----Original Message-----
From: Simon Rafferty [mailto:simonr@xxxxxxx]=20
Sent: 20 June 2004 21:33
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [ukha_d] OT : Ceramic Floor Tiling

Looks like I am bolloxed then. I spend most of my working life inspecting
premises that use over 10 tonnes of solvent a year in their processes - I
guess most of us Pollution Control Officers / EHOs are just walking
carcinomas, nice knowing you all

Simon
----- Original Message -----=20
From: "Neil Fuller" <neil@xxxxxxx>
To: <ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2004 5:29 PM
Subject: Re: [ukha_d] OT : Ceramic Floor Tiling


> >>LOL! It seriously plays with your brain that stuff
>
> >>Remember that solvent soaked rags are also very flammable and
in fact
the
> vapour will spontaneously combust near heat (The vapour is the
flammable
> bit!).
>
> Your all stark raving bonkers!!!
>
> Not only are the thinners extremely flammable but it is also
carcinogenic!!
> If you don't blow your place half way to kingdom-come you'll die a
horrible
> death in a few years time from some untreatable carcinoma.
>
> Not that I want to be alarmist or anything!!!!
>
> I'd hire a scrabbler and do the job properly, even if it does cost a
few
> quid more.
>
> Cheers
>
> Neil
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----=20
> From: "Rob Mouser" <groups@xxxxxxx>
> To: <ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2004 12:28 PM
> Subject: RE: [ukha_d] OT : Ceramic Floor Tiling
>
>
> LOL! It seriously plays with your brain that stuff. My missus works in
a
> warehouse full of the stuff all day and that probably accounts for why
shes
> still married to me ;-)
>
> Rob
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Phil Harris [mailto:phil@xxxxxxx]
> Sent: 20 June 2004 12:19
> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [ukha_d] OT : Ceramic Floor Tiling
>
>
> Or alternatively just get high and then have a fag...
>
> ;-)
>
> Phil
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rob Mouser [mailto:groups@xxxxxxx]
> > Sent: 20 June 2004 12:05
> > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> > Subject: RE: [ukha_d] OT : Ceramic Floor Tiling
> >
> > Yes you are correct, that is very good point. 3M do a very
> > good mask for just this purpose and unlike some is VERY
> > comfortable to wear. I swear by them for dusty/solvent work.
> > http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/pro.jsp?ts=3D29448&id=3D13038
> >
> > HTH
> >
> > Rob
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Simon Rafferty [mailto:simonr@xxxxxxx]
> > Sent: 20 June 2004 11:33
> > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: [ukha_d] OT : Ceramic Floor Tiling
> >
> > When Rob says a decent mask, he doesnt mean a crappy paper
> > one from the DIY store. You will need a rubber face mask that
> > takes cartridge filters. Make sure you buy a cartridge
> > suitable for cellulose thinners (there are lots of kinds of
> > cartridges).
> >
> > Simon
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Rob Mouser" <groups@xxxxxxx>
> > To: <ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2004 10:42 AM
> > Subject: RE: [ukha_d] OT : Ceramic Floor Tiling
> >
> >
> > NO I doubt white spirit would do it. I'm talking Cellulose
> > Thinners. You can
> > buy various grades such as 'standard', 'anti-bloom',
> > 'premium'. You want
> > good old 'standard'. Don't let them try and sell you 'gun
> > wash' that is a
> > VERY low grade solvent that contains too much contaminate and
> > it smells like
> > cats pee!
> > Tetrosyl make standard thinners in 5LTR and 25LTR quantities.
> > (Red tin.)
> > which you should be able to buy from any trade motor factors
> > or they often
> > have their own label brand. Aim to pay around =A310+Vat for
> > 25ltrs as that's
> > an 'average' trade price. However, if you're a 'punter' you
> > might get stung
> > for more :-)
> > If you're near Devon then I can get you some (Our cost is
> > around =A38 from
> > memory.) Its too heavy to ship. Also might be an idea to buy
> > a bale of rags,
> > they always come in handy! Again should need to pay no more
> > than =A310+VAT for
> > low grade coloured cotton rags in 10kg quantities.
> >
> > DISCLAIMER: Don't forget the ventilation and decent mask, this is
evil
> > stuff! Also it is very flammable!!!
> >
> > HTH
> >
> > Rob
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ben McCormack [mailto:ben@xxxxxxx]
> > Sent: 20 June 2004 10:27
> > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: [ukha_d] OT : Ceramic Floor Tiling
> >
> > Rob
> >
> > When you say thinners what sort do you mean? are we talking white
> > spirit?
> >
> > On 20 Jun 2004, at 09:53, Rob Mouser wrote:
> >
> > > I know I have removed that icky black adhesive left under
> > vinyl tiles
> > > before
> > > with Thinners, but I guess there are different types of
"icky black
> > > gooey"
> > > stuff???
> > > You do need A LOT of thinners though and plenty of rags to
> > mop up the
> > > goo.
> > > Also LOTS & LOTS of ventilation and a decent face mask.
Thinners in
> > > 25ltr
> > > quantities will cost you no more than =A320 from a trade
> > motor factors.
> > > Actually thinking about its probably only a route for the
insane (I
> > > fall
> > > into that camp.).....But HA cheap! :-)
> > >
> > > Rob
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Neil Fuller [mailto:neil@xxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: 20 June 2004 09:36
> > > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> > > Subject: Re: [ukha_d] OT : Ceramic Floor Tiling
> > >
> > > Ben
> > >
> > > It depends on the type of glue used as to whether you can
tile
> > > straight over
> > > the top or not.
> > >
> > > Some old glues will prevent the new ceramic tile adhesive
from going
> > > off. If
> > > you intend levelling the floor with a latex screed before
> > tiling, you
> > > *must*
> > > lift the old black "gunk"
> > >
> > > The safest bet (although messy and expensive) is to lift the
old
> > > adhesive
> > > using a scrabbler which you can hire from HSS or similar.
> > The machine
> > > basically removes the top mm or 3 of the screed, taking the
old glue
> > > with
> > > it.
> > >
> > > Your link was broken and may well have been pointing to a
scrabbler
> > > anyway!
> > > It's a messy job but if you don't want your new ceramic
> > tiles lifting,
> > > it's
> > > probably a good idea to get ride of the old black stuff.
> > >
> > > HTH
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > Neil
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Ben McCormack" <ben@xxxxxxx>
> > > To: "Home Automation List" <ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2004 10:02 PM
> > > Subject: [ukha_d] OT : Ceramic Floor Tiling
> > >
> > >
> > >> Hi all
> > >>
> > >> I am really hoping that someone can help me here, I have
been
> > >> searching
> > >> deja for ages and I cant fine the answer.
> > >>
> > >> I am intending to tile the kitchen with ceramic tiles.
> > >>
> > >> The problem is that we have got hard vinyl tiles down at
> > the moment,
> > >> now I can crape these up but there is still a black tar
> > like residue
> > >> left. Now is it safe to tile over this?
> > >>
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