Re: Airconditioning

["Paul Robinson" <ukcueman@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

I saw a leaflet in B&Q today on airconditioning. Amongst other stuff,
it said they were
going to sell a split unit, supposedly from May this year (IIRC).

I don't have any more details.

Paul
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jason" <jasonh@xxxxxxx>
To: <ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 6:45 PM
Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Airconditioning


Paul,

I think youll find this will apply to any split unit, however, they will
sell you one for
self install, but you have to be aware that the warranty will nto be valid
if anything
goes wrong.

Jason
----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Smith
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 6:08 PM
Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Airconditioning


Hi Jason,


Been there, but the 3 internal and a single outside unit has to be
installed by a profession.

Regards,

Paul


-----Original Message-----
From: Jason [mailto:jasonh@xxxxxxx]
Sent: 09 June 2004 17:06
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
Subject: Fw: [ukha_d] Airconditioning


----- Original Message -----
From: Jason
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 4:06 PM
Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Airconditioning


Try the following site for self install split units

http://www.uk-airconditioning.co.uk

Includes prices and delivery

Jason
----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Smith
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 3:47 PM
Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Airconditioning


Paul,

Could you post some pictures, or put them in the gallery, of both
the inside and outside units.

Thanks


Paul


-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Gale [mailto:groups@xxxxxxx]
Sent: 07 June 2004 10:43
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Airconditioning

See a huge number of messages about this on this list last year ;)

I tried one of the B&Q types - was completely useless and INCREDIBLY
noisy.
I found that it just couldn't deal with the heat (hot part of last years
summer). Eventually took it back and got a proper split unit installed
(Sharp Eco Inverter). The new system is FAB - cools the room really
quickly
(no matter how hot outside) and is really quiet even on highest fan
setting.
Also heats if needed and looks very smart on the wall.

The downside as James mentioned is that they need the condenser mounted
outside (my pipes run through the kitchen loft, through a suspended tube
between the kitchen wall and garage, through the garage and down to the
condenser the other side of the garage - about 30m.)

Can you tell I like it a lot!? No more thrips (thunder flies) crawling all
over my screens, face and hair! (we get plagued every year.)

System cost around £1300 fully fitted, although I have seen good DIY
systems
for under £1k.

Paul


-----Original Message-----
From: James Hoye [mailto:yahoo@xxxxxxx]
Sent: 07 June 2004 11:26
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Airconditioning

> I have seen the one in B&Q  and I think the 8K BTU one is about
179,
> however it needs a pipe that goes to the outside, is this just for
> dehumidified moisture or is there another reason for this pipe.

It is likely (for this amount of money) that the pipe is a heat exhaust.

> If water can I just run it into a bowl or something short term??

The condensate is usually collected into an internal container, and is
emptied when the unit indicates that this container is full.

> Alternatively anybody know of any other sources for air conditioners
> that don't require external venting?? Preferably in the Bristol area
or
> online

Hmmm... an air conditioner is essentially a heat pump, and moves heat
energy
from one place to another - so unless you want to heat up the adjacent
room
it has to go somewhere - outside usually.

The "hang the pipe out of the window" types are notoriously
inefficient in
that they draw air into the room (from adjacent rooms & outside) to
replace
the air that is vented (otherwise you'd end up in a vacuum).  This air has
the disadvantage of inevitably being warmer than the air that has already
been cooled in the room.  However, they will drop the temperature by
several
degrees and provide a degree of comfort.

The best type are split units, where the condensor is separate from the
evaporator unit (cooling part) [well, it's joined by the refrigerant
lines,
but the units are separate].  You mount the condensor outside and the heat
energy is carried in the refrigerant return to be dissipated outside of
the
room.  These are much more efficient, and sadly expensive.  Homebase(?)
flogged off a load of these cheap a year or two ago, and many list members
snapped them up.

Whatever type you get, you will need to 'vent' the unit to the outside one
way or another.

James