RE: Re: wiring standards

["Nigel Giddings" <nigel.giddings@xxxxxxx>]

Matt,

I would suggest the Krone advantage is cost. The disadvantage is
flexibility in terms of uses, ie Krone is ideally suited to Telephone (
I also use it for Dallas 1-wire and occupancy detection PIRs / Door
Contacts). Another thing Krone also offers is lightning protection for
outdoor cabling by using the plug-in lightning arrestors. I have several
cables that are 100m plus which can suffer the effects of induced
voltages during electrical storms... A while back I lost a modem,
satellite receiver and TV in the old Cottage. It is also possible to get
Krone Block test plugs (they are like rocking horse doo doo to find
though (if anyone has a couple let me know)) which allow non-intrusive
testing and monitoring to ccts.

RJ45 will suit all of the above and data (Ethernet) / KAT5 / short RS232
(Longer RS485?) and probably some other things as well but the cost of
installation is a bit higher... (The solution to lightning protection is
not as simple and testing a working cct is a pain IMHO)

While I get the impression money is no object for some people, for me
(and others I expect) the use of something is a trade off between cost
and functionality...

As you can tell I am a Krone Fan...

Nigel

PS I will do a write up one day when I put some time aside, still
learning MS SBS at the moment.

-----Original Message-----
From: matt_miles_uk [mailto:m_miles@xxxxxxx]
Sent: 27 January 2004 09:46
To: ukha_d@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ukha_d] Re: wiring standards

Hi!

I'm being VERY thick this morning.  I also want to find some way of
distributing my phones.  If i use a cat5 patch panel do I just wire
the two correct wires into all the sockets (equalling ona 16port
panel 1 in 15 out) then plug an rj45 > bt secondary socket into an
available port in a room and place a patch lead between the two
panels?

I'm VERY confused!  Any chance you could link some pics or a graphic
explaination!

What is the benefit of the Krone system?  Surely having everything
runnig through cat5 is easier and more sutiable for changes?  i.e i
have 2 ports in a room 1 data 1 tel. i need two data so i unplug the
tel and re-route the cable to the hub?

Regards,

Matt

--- In ukha_d@yahoogroups.com, "Nigel Giddings"
<nigel.giddings@u...> wrote:
> Jeff,
>
> If you are thinking purely telephone why not follow BT practice
and use
> a small Krone Frame
>
> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
ViewItem&item=2590862627&category
> =4660
>
> These can be picked up cheaply, see above, and could handle 20
pairs.
> Normal telephone cable is 3 pairs. If that's not enough mount two
next
> to each other...
>
> RJ45 frames are great, but more expensive and more difficult to
install.
> To use RJ45 properly you would need to install CAT5e (not too
expensive)
> and RJ45 wall sockets as well (a bit more than BT wall sockets).
You
> also need RJ45 patch cables as opposed to simple Jumper wire on a
Krone
> Frame. It depends what you want.
>
> I personally use both, a 340 Pair Krone Frame, and 144 way RJ45
patch
> panel. I know which is easier to terminate...
>
> HTH
>
> Nigel
>
> http://primrosecottage.no-ip.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Young, Jeff [mailto:Jeff.Young@xxxxxxx...]
> Sent: 26 January 2004 16:36
> To: 'ukha_d@yahoogroups.com'
> Subject: RE: [ukha_d] wiring standards
>
> I've decided to take the tangle/mess of cat 5 cabling in my
cupboard
> which
> is currently my phone system and do something about it.  I've
currently
> got
> two lines running into the house with 2 or 3 extensions on each
line.
> It is
> a real mess and really just a bunch of soldered wiring.
>
> My idea is to install some sort of patch panel (rj45) in the
cupboard.
> Each
> extension will be rj45 terminated at the cupboard end with a
standard BT
> socket at the other ( room side ).  I can then simply plug the
relevant
> connector into the relevant patch panel to bring the phone socket
> online.
>
> Does anyone have any ideas about standard patch panel wiring ? I
would
> rather start with some standard now that can also be used for
data/adsl
> in
> the future.
>
>
>
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