Re: Laser Launch New C-Bus Website!

["Alistair Watkins" <ukha@xxxxxxx>]

Hey Doogie, your message was useful as ever :)

thing is, when you take into account the 'average' family home, with the
ceiling lights and wall points, you are talking serious money.. then there
is the PC interface which is pretty important to me, as otherwise the
lights would work the same, just with funky switches!

now, would an average man in the street pay £35 (x10) per channel, let
alone £70?!  no wonder HA isnt taking off over here.. but i guess if you
are on a new-build the cost compared to the total build price is
justifyable... I just need to find somewhere to build my own place.. oh
and a way of financing it!

heres to the first house in the UK built entirely of LEGO :)

ali



Doogie Brodie said:
> Alistair Watkins wrote:
>
>> wow.. I knew C-Bus was expensive, but £121 for a 2 gang switch!!
in my
>> flat it would set me back about £700 just for the switches, and I
only
>> had
>> 6 rooms!  wow
>> suddenly the value for money of x10 is great! :)
>
> It all depends what you want to do, and the room aesthetics you want.
If
> you wanted to drive it down to a price, you might want to use standard
> momentary switches (like you would with X10 LD11s), linked to Bus
> Couplers.
>
> Looking at Laser's prices on www.cbus-shop.com (and excluding price of
> momentarys for neatness)
>
> 8 Channel dimmer £430.78
> 2 x Bus Coupler  2 x £87.50 = £175
>
> Total to C-Bus enable 8 dimming channels £605.78
> Total during Li's discount period        £514.91
>
> Price per channel regular    £75.72
> Price per channel discounted £64.36
>
> X10 LD11 on price from www.laser.com (using momentary switches,
> excluding price of momentarys for neatness)
>
> 8 x LD11 8 x £35 = £280
>
> Price per channel £35
>
> Obviously at a later date you could upgrade some or all of the
> momentarys to Neo, Saturn, Reflection, or any other C-Bus switch style
> that comes out, or to a different type of momentary.
>
> Each momentary could either provide direct control of a light
> (on/off/dim/bright), or could be used to set several channels to a
> preset level. You could even throw in one Neo in the living room or
> somewhere in the initial install to allow more control in that
location.
>
> And before anyone points it out; yes, X10 does let you buy dimming
> channels individually and build them up whereas with C-Bus, it's 8 (or
4
> if you require 2A per channel) at a time, but with 6 rooms you could
> quite easily want one light per room, with an extra light or two in
the
> living room and/or the bedroom, to provide the desired effects.
>
> Hope that wasn't too boring ;)
>
> Cheers
> --
> Doogie
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