RE: X10 Alternatives

["Phil Harris" <phil@xxxxxxx>]

Can I throw this into the mix?

http://www.letsautomate.com/index.cfm?&Nav=10956&;

Phil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Doogie Brodie [mailto:ukhad@xxxxxxx]
> Sent: 04 January 2004 21:39
> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [ukha_d] X10 Alternatives
>
>
> Andy Laurence wrote:
>
> > Commercial interest or not, I've yet to hear a bad word against
it.
> > People's only reservations seem to be cost and extra cabling.
>
> Yep, a combination of that and fear of the unknown ;)
>
> > Ulti is pricy looking at Mark McCall's link, as far as I'm
concerned.  I
> > like the way that X10 is quite cheap to retro-fit.  Of course,
> this is just
> > me being a skinflint!  I should really just fork out for it -
> I've just had
> > a rather substantial pay rise.  At just over £100 per light
> (have I got this
> > right?), it isn't that pricy, and will cost me about £750 for the
whole
> > house.
>
> Yes that's right, assuming you were able to use 2 gang 5A switches....
> depending on your wiring etc you will probably have to use some 1 gang
> 10A which, on those site's prices, are £200 per channel. With Ulti,
you
> can get scene setting units and remote controls, but no
"automation" as
> such - ie you can't set timed switch ons etc.... to do that, without
> rewiring, will require the not-yet-launched C-Bus RF, (or possible
> future upgrades to Ulti, not sure if that's all Ulti products out or
if
> there's anything in the works), or a non-Clipsal solution.
>
> > True.  I've had a thought about it, and may see where it takes
> me.  I reckon
> > I could do a non-dimming RF module with no status response for
> about £20 a
> > shot.  Cabled could be done with status response for under £10.
>
> Cool, good luck! :)
>
> > Agreed.  It does sound the best solution.  I just hate spending
money on
> > something I think I could do cheaper.  Fortunately, I ran CAT5
> to the floor
> > by each light switch, so I could probably retro-fit quite
> easily.  Do I need
> > to rewire the lighting in the ceiling too, or are the C-Bus
> switches all I
> > need.  I think I'm right in saying I need what is essentially a
spur for
> > each light with C-Bus.
>
> Excellent about the cat5 :) For C-Bus (not Ulti), you will require to
> re-wire the lights into a home-run configuration, all back to your
> central wiring point, just like with the X10 din rail modules.
>
> > Well, I just remortgaged for two years, so that's my minimum
> time scale.  No
> > plans to move, unless I really itch for a garage.  Thanks for the
input.
>
> Cool, no probs, always happy to help!
>
> Cheers
>
> --
> Doogie
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