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Re: Re: G4 Powerbook 17
I don't have my own Mac (yet), but i will be buying one soon for my
company=
- i really don't want to have to buy an upgrade each year for each bit of =
software - it seems they're pumping them out regularly, and not just the
OS=
.
Final Cut Pro
DVD Studio Pro
OS X
Photoshop
After Effects
and they're the "essentials" for what i do. i may as well forget
anything e=
lse i may like to buy!
-Nick
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Graeme Thomson=20
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx=20
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 8:17 PM
Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Re: G4 Powerbook 17
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if apple insist on charging silly money for 10.4 even for people that =
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bought a new mac recently before the release, i will seriously consider =
=20
switching back. i hate myself for saying it, since i love my eMac and =
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all, and love my iBook too. but even Ms do a cheap upgrade version of =
=20
windows. i wouldnt mind paying max 50 quid for it, but not another=20=20
hundred.=20
On Wednesday, October 15, 2003, at 08:13 pm, Nick Long wrote:=20
> I think apple are getting very naughty about their OS releases - they
=
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> promised OS X (being OS 10) and are managing to churn out 3 upgrades =
=20
> in the same amount of years - We've only just upgraded to OS X at work
=
=20
> due to the release of cerain hardware drivers we needed being delyaed
=
=20
> for about 2.5 years.=20
>=20
> needless to say we bought OS X 10.1 when it first came out (we didn't
=
=20
> know about the lack of drivers for said hardware at htis point) and it
=
=20
> hasn't ever been used, because Final Cut Pro 4 came out and it needed
=
=20
> Jaguar (10.2) which we had to shell out for. Now they're saying that =
=20
> you get better performance with Panthar - so what was the point
of=20=20
> buying 10.2 (which was only installed about 2 weeks ago anyway!!)=20
>=20
> GRRR.=20
>=20
> having said that - this is the ONLY problem I've EVER had with Apple =
=20
> and the hardware in question was third-party hardware specifically for
=
=20
> video editing.=20
>=20
> I wouldn't ever edit on a PC by choice anymore!=20
>=20
> -Nick=20
> ----- Original Message -----=20
> From: Graeme Thomson=20
> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx=20
> Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 8:06 PM=20
> Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Re: G4 Powerbook 17=20
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> thing is a bought jaguar the day it came out, so no joy there, and
my=
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> emac doesnt meet the cutoff point for the upgrade either. so they =
=20
> arent=20
> getting any more money off me for it.=20
> i dont usually pirate things, but if i discover i need it, i'll find
=
=20
> it=20
> somewhere. cos i really cant aqfford to pay full proce for it=20
> On Wednesday, October 15, 2003, at 07:28 pm, Nick Long wrote:=20
>=20
>> you can get a discounted price on Panther if you bought Jaguar
after a=
=20
>> certain date - just goto apple.com and check out thier OSX section
for=
=20
>> the exact dates. i think you just pay for P&P.=20
>>=20
>> I'm trying to find a cheap way of getting an upgrade from DVD
Studio=20
>> Pro 1.5 to 2.0 at the moment - no luck so far though! :(=20
>>=20
>> I've got a 17" G4 Powerbook sat on my desk right now - i use
them all=
=20
>> the time for Video editing. Very stable, very easy to use - now,
if=20
>> only there was a way of putting the Dock somewhere out of the
way... =
=20
>> > ;)=20
>>=20
>> -Nick=20
>> ----- Original Message -----=20
>> From: Graeme Thomson=20
>> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx=20
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 4:32 PM=20
>> Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Re: G4 Powerbook 17=20
>>=20
>>=20
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>>=20
>> yeah, panther looks nice, shame i wont be getting it. since i
paid=20
>> fulll price for jaguar for my iboook, i will NOT be paying
full=20=20
>> price=20
>> for panther for a machine thats less than a month old :(=20
>> On Wednesday, October 15, 2003, at 03:53 pm, P Murgatroyd
wrote:=20
>>=20
>>> Welcome to the club :-)=20
>>>=20
>>> The eMac is a nice piece of kit... Beautifully made..=20
>>>=20
>>> We *all* want a G5 :-)=20
>>>=20
>>> OS X has just got better and better... With Panther it really
seems =
=20
>>> to=20
>>> have=20
>>> matured...=20
>>>=20
>>> -----Original Message-----=20
>>> From: Graeme Thomson [mailto:tmw2n@xxxxxxx]=20
>>> Sent: 15 October 2003 15:41=20
>>> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx=20
>>> Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Re: G4 Powerbook 17=20
>>>=20
>>> i just totally switched my last machine from x86 to apple 10
days =
=20
>>> ago.=20
>>> my main machine is currently a 1GHz eMac with a superdrive in
it. i=
=20
>>> want a=20
>>> G5, but no way i can afford one.=20
>>> i have been trying to switch since i first played about wih an
OSX=20
>>> beta, way=20
>>> back when.=20
>>> On Wednesday, October 15, 2003, at 02:07 pm, aashram
wrote:=20
>>>=20
>>>> I have to really go for the 17" as the using logic
audo with it's=20
>>>> many=20
>>>> screens is not really suited for anything less.=20
>>>>=20
>>>> thanks for the tip on panther=20
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>> -----Original Message-----=20
>>>> From: P Murgatroyd [mailto:yahoogroups@xxxxxxx]=20
>>>> Sent: Wed 15/10/2003 13:43=20
>>>> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx=20
>>>> Cc:=20
>>>> Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Re: G4 Powerbook 17=20
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>> If your talking really and truly "on the
go" then I'd look at=
=20
>>>> the=20
>>> new=20
>>>> 12"=20
>>>> PowerBook... All the features.. Just much much
smaller :-) If=
=20
>>> it=C3=A2=E2,=AC=E2"=A2s=20
>>>> the=20
>>>> screen estate that you want then you would be able
to cope=20
>>>> with it=20
>>> on=20
>>>> the=20
>>>> road, but you would notice it! (or consider the new
15")=20
>>>>=20
>>>> If your buying new though I'd wait a week or so for
Panther to=
=20
>>>> be=20
>>>> released... And then get it included... At the
moment its free=
=20
>>>> for=20
>>>> current=20
>>>> buyers... But you have to pay P&P costs=20
>>>>=20
>>>> I know... The =C3,=C2=A3-$ conversion rate is always
painful..=
. Its=20
>>>> better=20
>>>> with Apple=20
>>>> than most though...=20
>>>>=20
>>>> -----Original Message-----=20
>>>> From: aashram [mailto:groups@xxxxxxx]=20
>>>> Sent: 15 October 2003 13:32=20
>>>> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx=20
>>>> Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Re: G4 Powerbook 17=20
>>>>=20
>>>> Thanks for eveyones comments.=20
>>>> I mainly need to record music on the go.=20
>>>>=20
>>>> I saw a friend of mines and was well taken back.=20
>>>> The os is a dream and I think about 10 ppl now Have
moved over=
=20
>>>> from=20
>>>> pc to=20
>>>> mac in frustration is windows os.=20
>>>> (please this is just a comment no turf wars on mac
vs pc)=20
>>>>=20
>>>> I joined a home course a few years ago and I have
been told=20
>>>> They=20
>>> have=20
>>>> a deal=20
>>>> with apple so I will get education discount.=20
>>>> I was in the states over the weekend and saw a place
selling=20
>>>> them=20
>>> For=20
>>>> =C3,=C2=A31699=20
>>>> brand new - apple will cover the warranty over here
too.=20
>>>> I don't know why I didn't pick one up DUH !=20
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>> -----Original Message-----=20
>>>> From: P Murgatroyd [mailto:yahoogroups@xxxxxxx]=20
>>>> Sent: 15 October 2003 13:26=20
>>>> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx=20
>>>> Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Re: G4 Powerbook 17=20
>>>>=20
>>>> Guys,=20
>>>>=20
>>>> 1Gig 17" Powerbook owner here :-)=20
>>>>=20
>>>> If I start gushing please forgive me... ;-)=20
>>>>=20
>>>> My main reason for purchase (apart from looks) was
that I work=
=20
>>>> with=20
>>>> PC's all=20
>>>> day... And fancied a change in the evenings and at
weekends...=
=20
>>>> I=20
>>>> still have=20
>>>> my P4 Shuttle... But its not been on anywhere near
as much as=
=20
>>>> it=20
>>> used=20
>>>> to be!=20
>>>>=20
>>>> The screen is about the best I have seen on a laptop
and I've=
=20
>>>> seen a=20
>>>=20
>>>> few!=20
>>>> (previous contract was laptop evaluation for large
blue-chip=20
>>>> co)=20
>>>>=20
>>>> Its bright, crisp and of course.... HUGE :-)
Perfect for=20
>>>> massive=20
>>>> spreadsheets, some image editing, making of videos,
or just=20
>>>> two word=20
>>>=20
>>>> docs=20
>>>> side by side - wicked for watching the odd DVD
too!=20
>>>>=20
>>>> The weight of the laptop itself is actually not that
bad.. I=20
>>>> carry=20
>>> it=20
>>>> with=20
>>>> me every day to work and back and I don't notice
that much=20
>>> difference=20
>>>> between it and the ThinkPad it replaced, it's the
expression =
=20
>>>> on=20
>>>> peoples=20
>>>> faces when you "get it out" that does it
for me... As if to=20
>>>> say "so=20
>>>> thin,=20
>>>> yet so powerful...... Wow"=20
>>>>=20
>>>> OS X is a dream to use, yes it does crash now and
then=20
>>>> (nowhere near=20
>>>=20
>>>> as=20
>>>> often as XP does on this dell I'm typing on now!)
but its only=
=20
>>>> the=20
>>>> one app=20
>>>> that crashes and you can easily continue working.
You also=20
>>>> have the=20
>>>=20
>>>> beauty=20
>>>> that underneath it all is a strong BSD Unix, so if
you want=20
>>>> you can=20
>>>> run all=20
>>>> your unix programs - I've had KDE and Evolution
running on top=
=20
>>>> of OS=20
>>> X=20
>>>> without a problem. Of course.. If you just have to
have=20
>>>> Windows XP,=20
>>>=20
>>>> then=20
>>>> you can run it up in a Virtual PC session.=20
>>>>=20
>>>> One word of warning... The simple purchase of a mac
doesn't=20
>>>> stop=20
>>>> there... I=20
>>>> bought this laptop a good few months ago now...
Since then a=20
>>>> new=20
>>> iPod=20
>>>> has=20
>>>> appeared, then came the new wireless keyboard and
mouse, and=20
>>>> panther=20
>>>=20
>>>> (OS X=20
>>>> 10.3) is preordered for delivery on the 24th - this
should add=
=20
>>>> a=20
>>> good=20
>>>> deal=20
>>>> of speed.=20
>>>>=20
>>>> Just noticed that as I have been typing this someone
has=20
>>>> mentioned=20
>>>> theres=20
>>>> one in the refurb store... I was going to mention
this too. =
=20
>>>> My=20
>>> PB17"=20
>>>> came=20
>>>> from Apple UK's refurbished store online, this was
about 2=20
>>>> months=20
>>>> after the=20
>>>> laptop itself was released, it cost me
=C3,=C2=A31950 includin=
g VAT,=20
>>>> at a=20
>>>> time when=20
>>>> the laptop was going new for =C3,=C2=A32600. Add to
that the =
fact=20
>>>> that the=20
>>>> laptop I=20
>>>> received was BRAND NEW (a cancelled order) then I
was well=20
>>>> chuffed=20
>>> at=20
>>>> my=20
>>>> saving (especially since I have claimed the VAT back
too, as=20
>>>> it was=20
>>> a=20
>>>> company purchase!) As Apple say, most refurb stock
is either=
=20
>>>> brand=20
>>>> new or=20
>>>> has been returned within 7 days, comes with a clean
bill of=20
>>>> health=20
>>>> and the=20
>>>> remainder of its AppleCare warranty - which can be
extended -=
=20
>>>> there=20
>>>> may=20
>>>> however be cosmetic marks or scratches on the
item... I was=20
>>>> lucky=20
>>> :-)=20
>>>>=20
>>>> There.. I've rambled for a little too long... Any
questions on=
=20
>>>> any=20
>>>> aspect I=20
>>>> havent talked about (or ones that I have) then
please feel=20
>>>> free to=20
>>>> ask!=20
>>>>=20
>>>> Thanks=20
>>>>=20
>>>> Hth=20
>>>>=20
>>>> paul=20
>>>>=20
>>>> -----Original Message-----=20
>>>> From: Ben McCormack [mailto:ben@xxxxxxx]=20
>>>> Sent: 15 October 2003 13:04=20
>>>> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx=20
>>>> Subject: [ukha_d] Re: G4 Powerbook 17=20
>>>>=20
>>>> Asshram=20
>>>>=20
>>>> I have been wanting to get a 17" powerbook for
a while now but=
=20
>>>> I=20
>>> have=20
>>>> not=20
>>>> had the cash.=20
>>>>=20
>>>> It is a good time top get a 17 as they have just
been updated=
=20
>>>> and=20
>>>> should=20
>>>> remain current for 6 months.=20
>>>>=20
>>>> The forums over here are a good place to get thoughs
on the=20
>>>> new 17=20
>>>>=20
>>>> http://www.macrumors.com/=20
>>>>=20
>>>> One last thing, have a look at the Apple Education
Store as if=
=20
>>>> you=20
>>>> can buy=20
>>>> from there you will save
=C3,=C2=A3200-=C3,=C2=A3300=20
>>>>=20
>>>> Ben=20
>>>>=20
>>>> --- In ukha_d@xxxxxxx, "aashram"
<groups@a...> wrote:=
=20
>>>>> has anyone got one of these ? any comments/experiences
they would=20
>>>> like to share b4 I go out a buy one ?=20
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