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Re: Re: G4 Powerbook 17
- To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
- Subject: Re: Re: G4 Powerbook 17
- From: Graeme Thomson <tmw2n@xxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:17:10 +0100
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if apple insist on charging silly money for 10.4 even for people that =0D
bought a new mac recently before the release, i will seriously consider =
=0D
switching back. i hate myself for saying it, since i love my eMac and =0D
all, and love my iBook too. but even Ms do a cheap upgrade version of =0D
windows. i wouldnt mind paying max 50 quid for it, but not another =0D
hundred.=0D
On Wednesday, October 15, 2003, at 08:13 pm, Nick Long wrote:=0D
=0D
> I think apple are getting very naughty about their OS releases - they
=
=0D
> promised OS X (being OS 10) and are managing to churn out 3 upgrades
=0D
> in the same amount of years - We've only just upgraded to OS X at work
=
=0D
> due to the release of cerain hardware drivers we needed being delyaed
=
=0D
> for about 2.5 years.=0D
>=0D
> needless to say we bought OS X 10.1 when it first came out (we didn't
=
=0D
> know about the lack of drivers for said hardware at htis point) and it
=
=0D
> hasn't ever been used, because Final Cut Pro 4 came out and it needed
=
=0D
> Jaguar (10.2) which we had to shell out for. Now they're saying that
=0D
> you get better performance with Panthar - so what was the point of
=0D
> buying 10.2 (which was only installed about 2 weeks ago anyway!!)=0D
>=0D
> GRRR.=0D
>=0D
> having said that - this is the ONLY problem I've EVER had with Apple
=0D
> and the hardware in question was third-party hardware specifically for
=
=0D
> video editing.=0D
>=0D
> I wouldn't ever edit on a PC by choice anymore!=0D
>=0D
> -Nick=0D
> ----- Original Message -----=0D
> From: Graeme Thomson=0D
> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx=0D
> Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 8:06 PM=0D
> Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Re: G4 Powerbook 17=0D
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> thing is a bought jaguar the day it came out, so no joy there, and
my=
=0D
> emac doesnt meet the cutoff point for the upgrade either. so they
=0D
> arent=0D
> getting any more money off me for it.=0D
> i dont usually pirate things, but if i discover i need it, i'll find
=
=0D
> it=0D
> somewhere. cos i really cant aqfford to pay full proce for it=0D
> On Wednesday, October 15, 2003, at 07:28 pm, Nick Long wrote:=0D
>=0D
>> you can get a discounted price on Panther if you bought Jaguar
after a=
=0D
>> certain date - just goto apple.com and check out thier OSX section
for=
=0D
>> the exact dates. i think you just pay for P&P.=0D
>>=0D
>> I'm trying to find a cheap way of getting an upgrade from DVD
Studio=0D
>> Pro 1.5 to 2.0 at the moment - no luck so far though! :(=0D
>>=0D
>> I've got a 17" G4 Powerbook sat on my desk right now - i use
them all=0D
>> the time for Video editing. Very stable, very easy to use - now,
if=0D
>> only there was a way of putting the Dock somewhere out of the
way... =
=0D
>> > ;)=0D
>>=0D
>> -Nick=0D
>> ----- Original Message -----=0D
>> From: Graeme Thomson=0D
>> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx=0D
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 4:32 PM=0D
>> Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Re: G4 Powerbook 17=0D
>>=0D
>>=0D
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>> yeah, panther looks nice, shame i wont be getting it. since i
paid=0D
>> fulll price for jaguar for my iboook, i will NOT be paying full
=0D
>> price=0D
>> for panther for a machine thats less than a month old :(=0D
>> On Wednesday, October 15, 2003, at 03:53 pm, P Murgatroyd
wrote:=0D
>>=0D
>>> Welcome to the club :-)=0D
>>>=0D
>>> The eMac is a nice piece of kit... Beautifully made..=0D
>>>=0D
>>> We *all* want a G5 :-)=0D
>>>=0D
>>> OS X has just got better and better... With Panther it really
seems =
=0D
>>> to=0D
>>> have=0D
>>> matured...=0D
>>>=0D
>>> -----Original Message-----=0D
>>> From: Graeme Thomson [mailto:tmw2n@xxxxxxx]=0D
>>> Sent: 15 October 2003 15:41=0D
>>> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx=0D
>>> Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Re: G4 Powerbook 17=0D
>>>=0D
>>> i just totally switched my last machine from x86 to apple 10
days =0D
>>> ago.=0D
>>> my main machine is currently a 1GHz eMac with a superdrive in
it. i=0D
>>> want a=0D
>>> G5, but no way i can afford one.=0D
>>> i have been trying to switch since i first played about wih an
OSX=0D
>>> beta, way=0D
>>> back when.=0D
>>> On Wednesday, October 15, 2003, at 02:07 pm, aashram
wrote:=0D
>>>=0D
>>>> I have to really go for the 17" as the using logic
audo with it's=0D
>>>> many=0D
>>>> screens is not really suited for anything less.=0D
>>>>=0D
>>>> thanks for the tip on panther=0D
>>>>=0D
>>>>=0D
>>>> -----Original Message-----=0D
>>>> From: P Murgatroyd [mailto:yahoogroups@xxxxxxx]=0D
>>>> Sent: Wed 15/10/2003 13:43=0D
>>>> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx=0D
>>>> Cc:=0D
>>>> Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Re: G4 Powerbook 17=0D
>>>>=0D
>>>>=0D
>>>>=0D
>>>> If your talking really and truly "on the
go" then I'd look at=0D
>>>> the=0D
>>> new=0D
>>>> 12"=0D
>>>> PowerBook... All the features.. Just much much
smaller :-) If=
=0D
>>> it=C3=A2=E2,=AC=E2"=A2s=0D
>>>> the=0D
>>>> screen estate that you want then you would be able
to cope=0D
>>>> with it=0D
>>> on=0D
>>>> the=0D
>>>> road, but you would notice it! (or consider the new
15")=0D
>>>>=0D
>>>> If your buying new though I'd wait a week or so for
Panther to=
=0D
>>>> be=0D
>>>> released... And then get it included... At the
moment its free=
=0D
>>>> for=0D
>>>> current=0D
>>>> buyers... But you have to pay P&P costs=0D
>>>>=0D
>>>> I know... The =C3,=C2=A3-$ conversion rate is always
painful... =
Its=0D
>>>> better=0D
>>>> with Apple=0D
>>>> than most though...=0D
>>>>=0D
>>>> -----Original Message-----=0D
>>>> From: aashram [mailto:groups@xxxxxxx]=0D
>>>> Sent: 15 October 2003 13:32=0D
>>>> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx=0D
>>>> Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Re: G4 Powerbook 17=0D
>>>>=0D
>>>> Thanks for eveyones comments.=0D
>>>> I mainly need to record music on the go.=0D
>>>>=0D
>>>> I saw a friend of mines and was well taken back.=0D
>>>> The os is a dream and I think about 10 ppl now Have
moved over=
=0D
>>>> from=0D
>>>> pc to=0D
>>>> mac in frustration is windows os.=0D
>>>> (please this is just a comment no turf wars on mac
vs pc)=0D
>>>>=0D
>>>> I joined a home course a few years ago and I have
been told=0D
>>>> They=0D
>>> have=0D
>>>> a deal=0D
>>>> with apple so I will get education discount.=0D
>>>> I was in the states over the weekend and saw a place
selling=0D
>>>> them=0D
>>> For=0D
>>>> =C3,=C2=A31699=0D
>>>> brand new - apple will cover the warranty over here
too.=0D
>>>> I don't know why I didn't pick one up DUH !=0D
>>>>=0D
>>>>=0D
>>>>=0D
>>>>=0D
>>>> -----Original Message-----=0D
>>>> From: P Murgatroyd [mailto:yahoogroups@xxxxxxx]=0D
>>>> Sent: 15 October 2003 13:26=0D
>>>> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx=0D
>>>> Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Re: G4 Powerbook 17=0D
>>>>=0D
>>>> Guys,=0D
>>>>=0D
>>>> 1Gig 17" Powerbook owner here :-)=0D
>>>>=0D
>>>> If I start gushing please forgive me... ;-)=0D
>>>>=0D
>>>> My main reason for purchase (apart from looks) was
that I work=
=0D
>>>> with=0D
>>>> PC's all=0D
>>>> day... And fancied a change in the evenings and at
weekends...=
=0D
>>>> I=0D
>>>> still have=0D
>>>> my P4 Shuttle... But its not been on anywhere near
as much as=0D
>>>> it=0D
>>> used=0D
>>>> to be!=0D
>>>>=0D
>>>> The screen is about the best I have seen on a laptop
and I've=0D
>>>> seen a=0D
>>>=0D
>>>> few!=0D
>>>> (previous contract was laptop evaluation for large
blue-chip=0D
>>>> co)=0D
>>>>=0D
>>>> Its bright, crisp and of course.... HUGE :-)
Perfect for=0D
>>>> massive=0D
>>>> spreadsheets, some image editing, making of videos,
or just=0D
>>>> two word=0D
>>>=0D
>>>> docs=0D
>>>> side by side - wicked for watching the odd DVD
too!=0D
>>>>=0D
>>>> The weight of the laptop itself is actually not that
bad.. I=0D
>>>> carry=0D
>>> it=0D
>>>> with=0D
>>>> me every day to work and back and I don't notice
that much=0D
>>> difference=0D
>>>> between it and the ThinkPad it replaced, it's the
expression =
=0D
>>>> on=0D
>>>> peoples=0D
>>>> faces when you "get it out" that does it
for me... As if to=0D
>>>> say "so=0D
>>>> thin,=0D
>>>> yet so powerful...... Wow"=0D
>>>>=0D
>>>> OS X is a dream to use, yes it does crash now and
then=0D
>>>> (nowhere near=0D
>>>=0D
>>>> as=0D
>>>> often as XP does on this dell I'm typing on now!)
but its only=
=0D
>>>> the=0D
>>>> one app=0D
>>>> that crashes and you can easily continue working.
You also=0D
>>>> have the=0D
>>>=0D
>>>> beauty=0D
>>>> that underneath it all is a strong BSD Unix, so if
you want=0D
>>>> you can=0D
>>>> run all=0D
>>>> your unix programs - I've had KDE and Evolution
running on top=
=0D
>>>> of OS=0D
>>> X=0D
>>>> without a problem. Of course.. If you just have to
have=0D
>>>> Windows XP,=0D
>>>=0D
>>>> then=0D
>>>> you can run it up in a Virtual PC session.=0D
>>>>=0D
>>>> One word of warning... The simple purchase of a mac
doesn't=0D
>>>> stop=0D
>>>> there... I=0D
>>>> bought this laptop a good few months ago now...
Since then a=0D
>>>> new=0D
>>> iPod=0D
>>>> has=0D
>>>> appeared, then came the new wireless keyboard and
mouse, and=0D
>>>> panther=0D
>>>=0D
>>>> (OS X=0D
>>>> 10.3) is preordered for delivery on the 24th - this
should add=
=0D
>>>> a=0D
>>> good=0D
>>>> deal=0D
>>>> of speed.=0D
>>>>=0D
>>>> Just noticed that as I have been typing this someone
has=0D
>>>> mentioned=0D
>>>> theres=0D
>>>> one in the refurb store... I was going to mention
this too. =
=0D
>>>> My=0D
>>> PB17"=0D
>>>> came=0D
>>>> from Apple UK's refurbished store online, this was
about 2=0D
>>>> months=0D
>>>> after the=0D
>>>> laptop itself was released, it cost me
=C3,=C2=A31950 including =
VAT,=0D
>>>> at a=0D
>>>> time when=0D
>>>> the laptop was going new for =C3,=C2=A32600. Add to
that the fa=
ct=0D
>>>> that the=0D
>>>> laptop I=0D
>>>> received was BRAND NEW (a cancelled order) then I
was well=0D
>>>> chuffed=0D
>>> at=0D
>>>> my=0D
>>>> saving (especially since I have claimed the VAT back
too, as=0D
>>>> it was=0D
>>> a=0D
>>>> company purchase!) As Apple say, most refurb stock
is either=0D
>>>> brand=0D
>>>> new or=0D
>>>> has been returned within 7 days, comes with a clean
bill of=0D
>>>> health=0D
>>>> and the=0D
>>>> remainder of its AppleCare warranty - which can be
extended -=0D
>>>> there=0D
>>>> may=0D
>>>> however be cosmetic marks or scratches on the
item... I was=0D
>>>> lucky=0D
>>> :-)=0D
>>>>=0D
>>>> There.. I've rambled for a little too long... Any
questions on=
=0D
>>>> any=0D
>>>> aspect I=0D
>>>> havent talked about (or ones that I have) then
please feel=0D
>>>> free to=0D
>>>> ask!=0D
>>>>=0D
>>>> Thanks=0D
>>>>=0D
>>>> Hth=0D
>>>>=0D
>>>> paul=0D
>>>>=0D
>>>> -----Original Message-----=0D
>>>> From: Ben McCormack [mailto:ben@xxxxxxx]=0D
>>>> Sent: 15 October 2003 13:04=0D
>>>> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx=0D
>>>> Subject: [ukha_d] Re: G4 Powerbook 17=0D
>>>>=0D
>>>> Asshram=0D
>>>>=0D
>>>> I have been wanting to get a 17" powerbook for
a while now but=
=0D
>>>> I=0D
>>> have=0D
>>>> not=0D
>>>> had the cash.=0D
>>>>=0D
>>>> It is a good time top get a 17 as they have just
been updated=0D
>>>> and=0D
>>>> should=0D
>>>> remain current for 6 months.=0D
>>>>=0D
>>>> The forums over here are a good place to get thoughs
on the=0D
>>>> new 17=0D
>>>>=0D
>>>> http://www.macrumors.com/=0D
>>>>=0D
>>>> One last thing, have a look at the Apple Education
Store as if=
=0D
>>>> you=0D
>>>> can buy=0D
>>>> from there you will save
=C3,=C2=A3200-=C3,=C2=A3300=0D
>>>>=0D
>>>> Ben=0D
>>>>=0D
>>>> --- In ukha_d@xxxxxxx, "aashram"
<groups@a...> wrote:=0D
>>>>> has anyone got one of these ? any comments/experiences
they would=0D
>>>> like to share b4 I go out a buy one ?=0D
>>>>>=0D
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