Re: Voice Over IP

["Dan" <dtoma@xxxxxxx>]

Hi Martyn,

> The phones on eBay are Cisco CP-30VIP (try the url
http://tinyurl.com/ak51),
I cannot access even this url....:-(
Yup... they cannot be used with SIP or H.323.. so ... not good for personal
use.

> I've been trying to see if it's possible to flash them
> with a different firmware to make them SIP compatible, but so far no
> success.
No way... just 7910/20/40/60 can be flashed with SIP image.

> I've just visited FWD and signed up, so now all I need is to decide on
and
> find some inexpensive phones.
You can start using a soft phone... try X-Lite (free from
http://www.xten.com) or SJPhone (free
evaluatiuon version from
http://www.sjlabs.com)
They are some cheap Ethernet to analog phone adapters (supporting both SIP
and H.323), like Yoda VG-100TA. See:
http://www.sys-net.ro/index.php?pagina=produs&categorie=f&subcat=f1
or the
producer site:
http://www.yoda.com.tw/
I don't know if they are available there...

Some possible combined solution are:
Actiontec USB Internet Phone Wizard (http://www.actiontec.com). I just
ordered one a couple of days ago and I must wait for about 3 weeks till I
get it here.
The nice feature of this one is that you can use the same standard fixed or
cordless phone for analogue and/or IP calls (just switch between them with
'##'). I don't know in this moment which of the FWD supported soft phones
can be used with Actiontec.... I'll be back with details ASAP.
A nice phone (combined digital cordless analogue/IP can be found at:
http://www.eutecticsinc.com/products/products.html)

I have in this moment the following setup:
The main phone is a Cisco 7960 with SIP image
A PC with SJPhone and an USB headset (Plantronics)
2 notebooks with X-Lite
one Compaq iPaq H3870 with 802.11b wireless card and X-Lite pocket PC
version

I have done some tests with Cisco ATA-186 with good results.

I still search for the ideal solution (in my opinion), which must do the
following:
- standalone (no PC necessary)
- supports SIP (with NAT support)/H.323 (even both in the same time on
separate profiles/lines)
- able to use the same phone for both IP and PSTN calls
- the following codecs available: G.711, G.723 - a must for low QoS links
(optional G.729 too)
- low price..

Yoda has some devices very close to that...


Best regards,
Dan


----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 2:54 PM
Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Voice Over IP


> Hi Dan,
>
> Thanks for the reply.
>
> The phones on eBay are Cisco CP-30VIP (try the url
http://tinyurl.com/ak51),
> but as I understand it this model has to be used with Cisco's own call
> manager software.  I've been trying to see if it's possible to flash
them
> with a different firmware to make them SIP compatible, but so far no
> success.  They're very cheap though, £40 each brand new boxed.
>
> I've just visited FWD and signed up, so now all I need is to decide on
and
> find some inexpensive phones.  What phones are you using?  I'll
probably
be
> going for some USB models for rooms that have PC's in them, but I'd
want
> stand alone units for all the other rooms.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Martyn
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dan" <dtoma@xxxxxxx>
> To: <ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 12:04 PM
> Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Voice Over IP
>
>
> Hi Martyn,
>
> I cannot see the page from your link.
> What IP phone is about?
> Cisco has some SIP phones too (7940 / 7960 or ATA-186/188), so you are
not
> more stuck with proprietary protocols.
>
> It is a good choice to have VoIP phones in each room (hardware/
software
or
> combined: see Actiontec's USB Internet Phone Wizard)...
> Then open a FWD account for each one and you can call each other for
free
> and even your overseas friends. (see http://fwd.pulver.com for details)
> You can use a PC2Phone provider ( many available on the net) and then
call
> regular phones too.
>
> Mainly two protocols are used now for residential users: SIP and
H.323, so
> the majority of the available hardware IP phones use one or both of
those
> protocols.
> FWD uses SIP
>
> I have something like this for each family member and it is great...
>
> If you need further assistance drop me a mail.
>
> Best regards,
> Dan
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 1:46 PM
> Subject: [ukha_d] Voice Over IP
>
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Anybody had any experience with VOIP telephones?  Are they easy
to set
up
> /
> > use?  With LAN connectivity in nearly every room it occured to me
that
> > installing VOIP telephones would offer intercom facilities
between
rooms.
> > With ADSL installed it should also cut down costs on overseas
calls
> > (assuming other end party has a VOIP telephone, or we use a VOIP
gateway
> in
> > the country where the call is destined for).
> >
> > These have come up on ebay and seem ridiculously cheap:
> >
>
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=176&item=3020299881
> &rd=1
> >
> > But I believe that they need to use proprietry software from
CISCO which
> is
> > no longer available.
> >
> > Thanks for any thoughts / advice!
> >
> > Martyn
> >
> >
> >
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