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RE: ADSL



--- Dean Smith <ukha@xxxxxxx> wrote: >
"Software Firewall" is another term different people
> / marketing departments
> have differing interpretations of.
>
> My view and most people I work with is that these
> days a software firewall
> is more likely to mean a "personal firewall" or
> software loaded on a PC in
> addition to the normal OS to provide protection in
> addition to its normal
> use.
>
> A hardware firewall could be any device whose sole
> purpose is to be a
> firewall. E.g. PC Running IPCop. deicated black box
> (Vigor 2600). Nokia F/W
> running Checkpoint FW-1 etc.
>
> It can be argued any firewall is software whether
> its held on disk or
> flash - but we're well into semantics there....
>
> Dean
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Frost Neil
> [mailto:Neil.Frost@xxxxxxx]
> Sent: 15 July 2003 11:08
> To: 'ukha_d@xxxxxxx'
> Subject: RE: [ukha_d] ADSL
>
>
> If you use a router, you will get some basic
> protection from the outside as
> it will use NAT - (Network address translation)
> basically means the outside
> WWW cannot get to you internal network. If you get a
> router with a built in
> firewall you will get a lot more control over what
> comes in and what goes
> out of your pc.
>
> An ADSL Router has a built in ADSL modem. You plug
> the phone connector in
> and then your RJ45 fly lead in the other port(s)
> then the other end of the
> fly lead into your pc. ( So your pc needs a network
> card (unless you have a
> router which includes a USB port)).
>
> You can have a router AND a software firewall such
> as IPCop.
>
> HTH
>
> Neil

So what is the benefit of a router AND IPCop on a
dedicated PC (hardware firewall)? Some, none at all?

Can someone describe what the router part actually
does. From product descriptions on the web it seems a
router is

ADSL modem + NAT + DHCP + Firewall

Which bit of the above is the router part or is it
something that is missing.

Part of my problem is there seems to be the usual
computer problem of a blurring of terms. You look on
the web for an ADSL modem and what you get is an ADSL
router with modem or you look for an ADSL router and
what you get is the router part only.

Another question has just occurred to me. How can you
have an ADSL router without the ADSL modem part? Isn't
that just a router?

I am currently assuming that an IPCop PC will handle
all the routing/NAT etc.

There seems to be a large overlap between what the
router provides and what IPCop provides but I'm not
sure if the parts where it doesn't overlap are
critical.

Regards
Simon Kennedy
Now more confused than ever.

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