RE: IRM +FirM Interfacing Update

["Nikola Kasic" <nikola@xxxxxxx>]

Unfortunatelly, I can't, but I'll think of something.
Can the length of the CAT5e cable between controller and Tx/Rx unit be
an
issue? I have maybe 20-25m longest run.
What I'll probably do is put one Tx/Rx high on the wall, where there is
a
cable, and then use network port behind sofa and plug Tx-only there. I
have
one network port which has only 7 wires connected (something happened
when
pulling cables), so I suppose that 7 wires should be enough for
Tx-only.
Then, I'll have to put zone splitter for that zone, so signals will be
transmitted through both transmitters in that zone simultaneously (is
that
what zone splitter does?).
Can it happen that TV receives the same command twice because they are
sent
at the same time, or that they will annulate each other?
Cheers,
Nik


-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Mc Alinden [mailto:armagh@xxxxxxx]
Sent: 30 October 2002 11:24
To: Nikola Kasic
Subject: Re: [ukha_d] IRM +FirM Interfacing Update


Hi Nik

> Regarding blaster, do you think that one per room is enough? My lounge
is
> 6.5m x 3.8m. Rectangular.

Not sure on this one Nik as i dont use them ....But if not directly in
front
of kit could be a problem???Could you not run your tx cables from Node
0  to
Kit around (behind) skirting???

Frank

----- Original Message -----
From: "Nikola Kasic" <nikola@xxxxxxx>
To: "'Frank Mc Alinden'" <armagh@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 8:50 PM
Subject: RE: [ukha_d] IRM +FirM Interfacing Update


> Hi Frank,
> Actually, I think that ethernet connector is better to be horizontal
in my
> case. My walls are very thin so I cannot supply cable from the back,
but
> from the side. The only problem could be the LEDs. They'll have to
be
moved
> to the faceplate.
>
> Regarding blaster, do you think that one per room is enough? My lounge
is
> 6.5m x 3.8m. Rectangular.
> But I cannot place blaster facing equipment, but on 80-90 degrees
angle,
> which means that signal will have to bounce. I'm a bit sceptical how
it
will
> work. SWMBO will not be happy if I have to dig through the walls
again.
> Nik
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Frank Mc Alinden [mailto:armagh@xxxxxxx]
> Sent: 29 October 2002 07:58
> To: nikola@xxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [ukha_d] IRM +FirM Interfacing Update
>
>
> Hi Nik
>            
Here are some photos of the zone rx unit pcb...as can be seen
> the rj45 socket is horizontal so cable entry is end on... a
vertical
socket
> would be better for your application....... When the units are ready
and
you
> are interested  in purchasing a  controller and pc interface
you could
send
> me some blank plates and i could retrofit them for you if you
wish.......But
> do yourself a big favour and if you can get some form of cabling from
each
> zone receiver point to your  zone equipment do it ...........
>
> Frank
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Nikola Kasic" <nikola@xxxxxxx>
> To: <ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 11:18 PM
> Subject: RE: [ukha_d] IRM +FirM Interfacing Update
>
>
> > Hi Frank,
> > Can you post some close-up pictures of Tx/Rx units, with marked
receiver
> and
> > Leds that need to be moved.
> > Basically, instructions how to mount it on blanking plate. I
can't
imagine
> > that I'm the only one interested in mounting them permanently on
the
wall.
> > Am I right in thinking that Tx anr Rx units are combined into
single
unit
> > and connected with single RJ45 to controller?
> > What are zone splitters? Are they used if you want to put more
Tx/Rx
units
> > into same zone?
> > Cheers,
> > Nik
> >   -----Original Message-----
> >   From: Frank Mc Alinden [mailto:armagh@xxxxxxx]
> >   Sent: 28 October 2002 11:54
> >   To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> >   Subject: Re: [ukha_d] IRM +FirM Interfacing
Update
> >
> >
> >   Hi Nik
> >           Yes
there would be some desoldering required if mounting the
> pcbs
> >   onto blanking plates......You can get some stick on
standoffs to hold
> the
> >   pcb...Also the ir receiver is located at one end so
it may require
some
> >   surgery as well....
> >
> >   Frank
> >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   From: "Nikola Kasic"
<nikola@xxxxxxx>
> >   To: <ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
> >   Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 10:32 PM
> >   Subject: RE: [ukha_d] IRM +FirM Interfacing
Update
> >
> >
> >   > Frank,
> >   > Will I need to de-solder LEDs in order to be
able to put them
through
> >   > blanking plate?
> >   > Are there any suitable holders for fixing PCB
onto blanking plate,
or
> I
> >   > should just leave everything loose in a box?
> >   > Cheers,
> >   > Nik
> >   >   -----Original Message-----
> >   >   From: Frank Mc Alinden
[mailto:armagh@xxxxxxx]
> >   >   Sent: 25 October 2002 11:47
> >   >   To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> >   >   Subject: Re: [ukha_d] IRM +FirM
Interfacing Update
> >   >
> >   >
> >   >   Hi Nik
> >  
>              
The cat5 socket is the highest component so around
> >   >   10-15mm....Remember though a cat5
plug goes into it....
> >   >
> >   >   IR Feedback
> >   >   If you use blaster type emitters
then when you press the button on
> > your
> >   >   remote pointed at the rx unit the
response from the pc (ir signal)
> > will
> >   > get
> >   >   send out of the blaster ir led
picked up by the tv or whatever and
> > also
> >   > the
> >   >   zone rx unit and sent back again to
the pc and just goes into an
tx
> rx
> >   >   loop...........
> >   >
> >   >   Frank
> >   >
> >   >
> >   >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   >   From: "Nikola Kasic"
<nikola@xxxxxxx>
> >   >   To: <ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
> >   >   Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 8:04
PM
> >   >   Subject: RE: [ukha_d] IRM +FirM
Interfacing Update
> >   >
> >   >
> >   >   > Hi Frank,
> >   >   > Just checked my single gang
box.
> >   >   > Dimensions are 68x68x25mm
> >   >   > So probably it will fit into
double gang one.
> >   >   > Can you tell me what's the
depth of the device?
> >   >   >
> >   >   > There's no way for me to bring
CAT5 close enough to use stick on
> >   > emitters.
> >   >   >
> >   >   > What are feedback problems?
> >   >   >
> >   >   > Cheers,
> >   >   > Nik
> >   >   >   -----Original
Message-----
> >   >   >   From: Frank Mc
Alinden [mailto:armagh@xxxxxxx]
> >   >   >   Sent: 24 October
2002 12:19
> >   >   >   To:
ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> >   >   >   Subject: Re:
[ukha_d] IRM +FirM Interfacing Update
> >   >   >
> >   >   >
> >   >   >   Hi Nik
> >   >  
>              
I think there would be problems if using ir
blaster
> > type
> >   >   >   emitting......i
have only tested the system with stick on
> >   >   > emitters........Im
> >   >   >   sure there would be
feedback problems...Have you located your
> cat5
> >   >   points
> >   >   >   above were your
equipment is....if so is there any way you can
> get
> > a
> >   >   thin
> >   >   >   type speaker wire
down to the equipment to use for
emitters????
> >   >   >   > And if it is,
will it fit into a single gang box?
> >   >   >   Its been a long
time since i seen a UK plate.....the pcb is
> around
> >   > 75mm
> >   >   x
> >   >   >   50mm
> >   >   >
> >   >   >   Frank
> >   >   >   ----- Original
Message -----
> >   >   >   From: "Nikola
Kasic" <nikola@xxxxxxx>
> >   >   >   To:
<ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
> >   >   >   Sent: Thursday,
October 24, 2002 8:13 PM
> >   >   >   Subject: RE:
[ukha_d] IRM +FirM Interfacing Update
> >   >   >
> >   >   >
> >   >   >   > Hoooray!
> >   >   >   > Three
times...
> >   >   >   > But, of
course, nothing is perfect, so to get SWMBO approval
i
> >   would
> >   >   > like
> >   >   >   to
> >   >   >   > put
transmitters and receivers high on the wall in a box
> behind
> > a
> >   >   > blanking
> >   >   >   > plate. I would
then drill a hole in a plate for IR LEDs.
> >   >   >   > Is something
like that possible?
> >   >   >   > And if it is,
will it fit into a single gang box?
> >   >   >   > And will
single CAT5 cable be enough for both Tx and Rx?
> >   >   >   > Electrician
put the cables throug the strategic points last
> > week,
> >   > and
> >   >   > he's
> >   >   >   > not finished
yet. I left enough length curled and hidden for
> the
> >   >   future
> >   >   > IR
> >   >   >   > solution, but
if I can do it the way I plan, I might order
> >   >   >   >
transmitters/receivers and ask electrician to put boxes in
> place
> >   and
> >   >   >   cables
> >   >   >   > through wall
to each box.
> >   >   >   >
> >   >   >   > Dan's idea of
controling lights via IR is interesting.
> >   >   >   > But where
transmitters must be placed relative to IR
receiver
> on
> >   > light
> >   >   >   > switch? Can
they be on the same wall? That means that IR
> signal
> >   will
> >   >   > have
> >   >   >   to
> >   >   >   > bounce off the
walls. Is that possible and will they bounce
> off
> >   any
> >   >   wall
> >   >   >   and
> >   >   >   > furniture, or
just some (e.g. wall carpets).
> >   >   >   >
> >   >   >   > Cheers
> >   >   >   > Nik
> >   >   >   >  
-----Original Message-----
> >   >   >   >  
From: Frank Mc Alinden [mailto:armagh@xxxxxxx]
> >   >   >   >  
Sent: 22 October 2002 20:40
> >   >   >   >  
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> >   >   >   >  
Subject: Re: [ukha_d] IRM +FirM Interfacing Update
> >   >   >   >
> >   >   >   >
> >   >   >   >  
Thats correct Nik
> >   >   >  
>                              
Hopefully when finished (the
pc
> >   >   interface)
> >   >   >   a
> >   >   >   > pc
> >   >   >   >  
user can have a multizone rx tx /rx using Automat8it
> software
> >   with
> >   >   > Dans
> >   >   >   >  
plugins and my pc interface + FirM .
> >   >   >   >
> >   >   >   >  
Frank
> >   >   >   >  
----- Original Message -----
> >   >   >   >  
From: "Nikola Kasic" <nikola@xxxxxxx>
> >   >   >   >  
To: <ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
> >   >   >   >  
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 1:35 AM
> >   >   >   >  
Subject: RE: [ukha_d] IRM +FirM Interfacing Update
> >   >   >   >
> >   >   >   >
> >   >   >   >  
> Frank, if I understand properly, with IRM and FirM you
can
> > use
> >   > PC
> >   >   >   >  
(Autom8it)
> >   >   >   >  
> as a brain and control where the commands will be
> > transmitted.
> >   >   That
> >   >   >   way
> >   >   >   > IR
> >   >   >   >  
> commands will not be sent through the whole house, but
to
> > the
> >   >   >   >  
pre-programed
> >   >   >   >  
> zones only. Also, we don't need a HV for controling
FirM,
> > but
> >   > can
> >   >   > use
> >   >   >   > PC.
> >   >   >   >  
> Can you tell me am I right?
> >   >   >   >  
> Cheers,
> >   >   >   >  
> Nik
> >   >   >   >  
>   -----Original Message-----
> >   >   >   >  
>   From: Frank Mc Alinden [mailto:armagh@xxxxxxx]
> >   >   >   >  
>   Sent: 22 October 2002 12:38
> >   >   >   >  
>   To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> >   >   >   >  
>   Subject: [ukha_d] IRM +FirM Interfacing Update
> >   >   >   >  
>
> >   >   >   >  
>
> >   >   >   >  
>   HI all
> >   >   >   >  
>           Just a
quick update on were Dan and I are at
> with
> >   Dans
> >   >   IRM
> >   >   >   and
> >   >   >   >  
my
> >   >   >   >  
> FirM....
> >   >   >   >  
>
> >   >   >   >  
>   Well at the moment Using Dans software the pc can send
a
> > tx
> >   > zone
> >   >   >   > command
> >   >   >   >  
> to the FirM Interface and select a tx zone on
> > firm.......Also
> >   > when
> >   >   > an
> >   >   >   ir
> >   >   >   >  
> signal is received by Dans software it asks the
interface
> > for
> >   > zone
> >   >   > id
> >   >   >   > and
> >   >   >   >  
> displays it on the pc........At this point im trying to
> get
> > my
> >   > ir
> >   >   >   sytem
> >   >   >   >  
> (firm + hv) to respond to a txed ir signal with little
> luck
> >   not
> >   >   sure
> >   >   >   if
> >   >   >   >  
its
> >   >   >   >  
> a hardware problem????
> >   >   >   >  
>
> >   >   >   >  
>   More Soon
> >   >   >   >  
>
> >   >   >   >  
>   Frank
> >   >   >   >  
>
> >   >   >   >  
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