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RE: Web-surfing in the bath...



Sorry,

When I said "most loft conversions are a waste of money", I was r= eferring to the area where I live.

House prices down here (Crawley) are among the lowest in the South-East (wh= ich is why I live here). Building work, however, seems to attract London ra= tes.

I've seen a number of people locally carry out loft conversions on, say, th= ree-bed houses, that cost =A320k. The problem is, these loft conversions on= ly add =A315-20k to the value of the house, wheras the owners seem to belie= ve that they will make a three bed house as valuable as a four bed locally,= and are rather upset when they sometimes don't even get their money back.<= BR>
I've discussed this at length with the estate agent I've used for most of m= y recent property purchases, and come to the conclusion that a loft convers= ion only makes financial sense in the house I'm actually living in.

Obviously, in London proper, the economics are wildly different, and loft c= onversions are very good investments in areas with Clapham and Wandsworth.<= BR>
Mark (the landlord) Harrison


-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Gordon [mailto:paul_gordon@xxxxxxx]
Sent: 19 May 2002 19:38
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Web-surfing in the bath...


Mark,

Whan I was refurbing my main bathroom a month or two ago, someone sent me a=
link (which I've subsequently lost, sorry), to a website of a company that =
specialise in bathroom tiles with screens in them.

Would whoever sent it to me be kind enough to chip in here please...

Incidentally, what do mean that most loft conversions are a waste of money?=
that certainly doesn't seem to be the case in my experience...

Paul G.


>From: "Mark Harrison" <Mark.Harrison@xxxxxxx> >Reply-To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx >To: <ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
>Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Web-surfing in the bath...
>Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 19:21:15 +0100
>
>Yes, but this is actually much more cost-effective, and given that the = rest
>of the larger houses round here are already on 3 storeys, wouldn't be a=
>waste of money in the way that most loft-conversions are.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Phillip Harris [mailto:phil@xxxxxxx]
>Sent: 19 May 2002 19:09
>To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx >Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Web-surfing in the bath...
>
>
>
>Have you considered just buying a bigger house? ;-)
>
>Phil
>
> > It is surprisingly high-pitched... Obviously, we'd need to
> > move the water-tank, and change the W-frame to something that
> > didn't cut out 50% of the space, but most of the other houses
> > in our road are 6-beds, and have 2 bedrooms plus a bathroom
> > in the roof-space.
> >
> > M
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Phillip Harris [mailto:phil@xxxxxxx]
> > Sent: 19 May 2002 18:58
> > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx > > Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Web-surfing in the bath...
> >
> >
> >
> > > As some of you may be aware, certain members of UKHA have > > > been known to use their computers in the bath to surf/IRC. > >
> > Erm ... I think that would be me...
> >
> > > Now, we are considering a loft conversion (running out of > > > space at Harrison), and, if we decide to go ahead, the plan<= BR> > > > is to make the loft space a master bedroom suite with a big<= BR> > > bathroom.
> >
> > I've been in your loft ... There's not *THAT* much room
> > unless you're into limbo dancing!
> >
> > > What should I be building in to facilitate using the PC in > > > the bath? Should I be having a wall-mounted screen, and an I= R
> > > keyboard on a swingout shelf, with the PC itself elsewhere i= n
> > > a "dry" room? Should I have a "laptop shelf&q= uot;, with the PSU
> > > mounted in another room, so only 12v runs into the bathroom?=
> > > Is this basically a stupid idea?
> >
> > Go for RF rather than IR simply as I find the IR keyboards
> > and mice are not half as pleasant to use.
> >
> > *MYSELF* I would like to stick a 17" LCD monitor behind a > > perspex panel mounted in the wall with the monitor behind and
> > then stick in the ceiling a couple of in-car speakers (use
> > anything without a pulp or paper cone and you'll be OK with
> > moisture) and just do that.
> >
> > In reality I take the laptop in there and stick it on a
> > little "bridge" I knocked up to go over the bath!
> >
> > > If I have a wall-fitted screen, it would be nice to have it<= BR> > > > so it can play movies as well :-)
> >
> > Not a problem there..
> >
> > > What do people think?
> >
> > Well they think I'm sad, mad and dangerous to know...
> >
> > Not sure what they think about you.
> >
> > Phil
> >
> >
> >
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