RE: [OTish] Electronics (for HA)

["Keith Doxey" <lists.diyha@xxxxxxx>]

Just like to add that Ian uses Proteus from Labcenter Electronics
www.labcenter.co.uk  because thats the one I use. I started with a low
cost
shareware version and then bought the full blown version although not at
the
highest level .....yet :-)

Using the same package allow us to swap designs and any components we
design. As Ian said, there are other packages available.

Stripboard Magic is very good for what it originally cost (about ?40) but
I
am sure the makers of Veroboard put up some of the money for software
development because if you let it specify the board size it doesnt
economise
on the board area !

Stripboard Magic was developed and sold by Ambyr Electronics but they
sold
the distribution right for the program to another company and it
disappeared
without trace. Ambyr Ltd was dissolved at the end of 1999 so the program
in
its legitimate form is no longer available (read into that what you
like)

Keith

www.diyha.co.uk
www.kat5.tv


-----Original Message-----
From: Ian B [mailto:Ian@xxxxxxx]
Sent: 28 April 2002 17:41
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [ukha_d] [OTish] Electronics (for HA)


Andy et al

I will work up a page or ten on the way I produce my circuit boards.
Basically you throw money at it and have a laser printer for best
results.
1) PCB design software 150 pounds - others available and cheaper, don't
know
about quality
2) Print your masterpiece onto acetate (laser is best)
3) Plonk the acetate and PCB to be into the UV box - 100 pounds
4) Develop the PCB cos we are using photo etching - bargain at a few
pence
5) Drop the PCB to be into the etching tank - 70 quid or so for tank,
heater
and fish tank pump + chemicals
6) Take out your masterpiece and drill lots of holes in it with your
dremmel
and stand - 100 pounds.

This is what I have paid to get the results you see. There is of course
all
the time to learn how to use all this stuff as well. Never let it be said
it
was easy or cheap. There are shortcuts but I don't regret spending this
time
and money at all.

It must be said that the master Doxey gave me some invaluable pointers
at
the beginning. Thanks again Keith.

Ian B

> -----Original Message-----
> From: andy_powell_is [mailto:ukha@xxxxxxx]
> Sent: 28 April 2002 16:29
> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> Subject: [ukha_d] [OTish] Electronics (for HA)
>
>
>
> Ermm.. I think I've made a slight error... I got some stripboard
from
> Maplins (via the special Q courier service :D ) and I've just had
a
> look at it.. I think I got the wrong stuff (my fault) because I
was
> just expecting it to be plain fibreglass stuff with holes in. This
is
> like that on one side but on the other are lines of copper running
> the entire length of the board in a row: eg
>
> 00000000000000
>
> 00000000000000
>
> each row of 0's has copper running along it. but there is a gap
> between the two sets of  0's...
>
> Can someone in the know tell me what I should have ordered? Again
I
> was wrongly under the impression that I would be able to build a
> prototype of 'a thing' using soldered wires...
>
> If anyone can use the stuff I got and is going to the london meet
> then you're welcome to it...
>
> .. wot sort of equipment is needed to do something like Ian's
work:
>
> http://www.mollyology.com/WebPages/Projects/PIC%20LCD/PIC%20Protot
ype%20helper.htm (last picture on the page)


Andy



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