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Re: UK Voltage



I'd have thought ther first hurdle to overcome was radial vs ring wiring, and the 13A plug is very much a child of the wiring scheme behind it.
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Roger
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Sent: 15 March 2002 23:30
Subject: RE: [ukha_d] UK Voltage

Errrrrrm..... A European 2-pin socket??????? News to me.....
 
Hope you are not confusing the Italian CEI23-16/VII, socket (not 19mm centres) or the Swiss SEC1011 sockets - 19mm centres, but the Swiss did not get in with any standardisation on this one, but still with earths, although in the Italian case possible to force a Shuko plug into.
 
Otherwise you have the CEE7/4 (Shuko) or CEE7/7 sockets, both with earths.Yes the earth is either the strip on the side, or the pin sticking out, respectively.
 
But remember you can only buy pre-wired plugs in Europe (one good thing we adopted) so a two-pin plug is on a bit of kit that is double insulated.
 
The cables are fully rated for the type of socket too, so no need for a fuse.
 
My Swiss colleagues take great delight in being able to plug two-pin leads into 13A sockets, and have got it down to a fine art :-))))
 
But you are right, it is a mess... even I was unaware of the Italian Job until recently.
 
Roger
 
 

 
Easy... as long as the continentals will accept our 13A sockets :-)
 
The European 2 pin jobbie is a ludicrous design. A 2 pin unearthed socket can accept a 3 conductor plug as the design has 2 pins with the earth contacts on the side of the plug body.!
 
Handy as a quick way to remove an earth loop but not exactly a reliable method of ensuring that the user lives to a ripe old age without getting fried !!!!

Keith

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-----Original Message-----
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If we can just get some agreement on the power connectors on the wall....



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