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RE: Re: Oil level monitors


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  • Subject: RE: Re: Oil level monitors
  • From: "Keith Doxey" <lists.diyha@xxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 23:35:03 -0000
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Hi Chris,
 
Dont forget that here in the UK we are extremely limited in what is available or affordable for Home Automation.
 
Collectively the members of UKHA have devised many ways of achieving what they desire either by building/writing from the ground up, or adapting other technologies to suit a different purpose. There are many self contained devices such as temperature sensors etc that function well as stand alone systems but we seek to integrate them with other systems.
 
The ultimate aim is to achieve systems that offer the same type of functionality as the high end systems available in the States but without breaking the bank too much in the process.
 
Dont forget there is another side to continuous monitoring, that of leak detection. You know your tank last for x months but a slow leak underground may not be noticed until you run out of oil 4 weeks early whereas your HA system would monitor the falling level and know you werent using any because the heating hadnt been on therefore it can raise the alarm.
 
It could also do that if someone was stealing the oil whilst you were away from home. An SMS alert (and possible security webcam confirmation of oil level dropping at faster than normal useage rates) means you could call the police and have the villians possibly caught in the act.
 
Keith
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Langridge [mailto:chrisl@xxxxxxx]
Sent: 28 February 2002 23:29
To: 'ukha_d@xxxxxxx'
Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Re: Oil level monitors

You're right Keith -
 
And I expect you to come up with a diagram to grab the the output from the led and sent it HV.
 
(I just visited their site - and I publicly retract everything I said in my first mail - it is pretty cool - espeicially if like us you're about to buy a new tank anyway)
-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Doxey [mailto:lists.diyha@xxxxxxx]
Sent: 28 February 2002 23:05
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxxSubject: RE: [ukha_d] Re: Oil level monitors

Enter into the spirit of things Chris....
 
It has to be done because it is a challenge....
 
not necessarily because it OUGHT  or NEEDS to be done :-)
 
The constant reading can then be integrated with a real time feed >from the lowest price thereby leaving more money for toys. OK, so maybe that is taking it to extremes!
 
This HA lark is all about playing with as many toys as possible.
 
Keith
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Langridge [mailto:chrisl@xxxxxxx]
Sent: 28 February 2002 23:09
To: 'ukha_d@xxxxxxx'
Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Re: Oil level monitors

We thought about this last week and figured that this was an example of HA
going too far.

Our oil tank needs filling aproximately 2 times a year.

y thousand litres of oil last about x months.

So the easiest way to automate things is to set an alarm on your calendar to
pop up every x months. Then you go and look at the oil tank to see if it is
time to order. I figured that if I had a sensor in the tank, I would still
go and do a visual check anyway before ordering so why waste the effort to
automate such a rare event....



>-----Original Message-----
>From: K. C. Li [mailto:li@xxxxxxx]
>Sent: 28 February 2002 22:46
>To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx>Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Re: Oil level monitors
>
>
>On Thu, 28 Feb 2002, steveddickson wrote:
>
>> trying to canabalise one to interface with comfort, I think Li was
>> going to add it to hi project list. The manufacturers wern't
>> interested.
>
>Yes. I have discussed the subject of adding an electronic feed of the
>fluid level to HomeVision, Comfort and other systems with the Technical
>Manager of Sensory Systems. I have a distinct feeling that he
>didn't like
>the idea at all. He kept saying that there already is an
>option to add an
>automatic dial-out module to the device when the level is low.
>However, it
>dials out to a preprogrammed telephone number that the user
>cannot change.
>
>I suspect cosy arrangements exist between Sensory Systems and the
>designated oil suppliers for the automatic dial-out facility. Hence the
>company wasn't keen to allow other add-ons to break that arrangement.
>
>Regards,
>
>Kwong Li
>li@xxxxxxx>Laser Business Systems Ltd.
>http://www.laser.com
>
>
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