RE: Shuttle & via epia... now firewalls

["Mark Harrison" <Mark.Harrison@xxxxxxx>]

Tony,

I sort of agree and disagree with what you say:


I agree with you that a Via board is ludicrously overpowered for running th= e firewall for a domestic LAN on broadband. A second-hand P90 with a 10Mb H= DD would be fine, and should come in about =A330 in a local PC fair.

I disagree that the solution is to run other services on a firewall. PC har= dware is _not_ capable of serving firewall functions as well as serving res= ources to the internal network.

If you are going to go to the trouble of having a firewall, then do it prop= erly. Don't compromise it by adding lots of security holes.

Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: BUTLER, Tony, FM [mailto:tony.butler@xxxxxxx]
Sent: 10 July 2002 11:54
To: 'ukha_d@xxxxxxx'
Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Shuttle & via epia... now firewalls


> "Seems a bit of a waste IMO to have 3 - why not combine the inter= net
> gateway/firewall machine with the MP3 jukebox?"
>
> Hmmm, some people just don't get it do they...

On the contrary Lee, this group is full of ppl who, whilst willing to shell=
out more than the GDP of a small country on new bulk buy toys, will bend over backwards and jump througp hoops in order to save a few pennies :-)
If you want to throw away your money on lots of overpowered/underutilised hardware then go ahead, but not everyone does.
My point was that pc hardware can serve several functions easily and not require separate boxes for everything.


Tony

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> ahoo.com]On Behalf Of Mark Harrison
> Sent: 09 July 2002 15:25
> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx > Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Shuttle & via epia
>
>
> Can I just take this opportunity to remind people that, if you're
> considering JReceiver as the MP3 jukebox software, please
> _don't_ run it on
> the same machine as your firewall.
>
> JRec is alpha, and should only ever been run within a secure
> environemnt.
>
> Likewise, most of the Firewalls (smoothwall, Checkpoint, etc) would > recommend that you NEVER run other services on them.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mark
> The Jreceiver Team
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BUTLER, Tony, FM [mailto:tony.butler@xxxxxxx]
> Sent: 9 July 2002 13:22
> To: 'ukha_d@xxxxxxx'
> Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Shuttle & via epia
>
>
> Marcus,
>
> Seems a bit of a waste IMO to have 3 - why not combine the internet > gateway/firewall machine with the MP3 jukebox?
> It doesn't have to do much processing as you will presumably
> be streaming
> audio to players elsewhere in the house, so one should be
> well capable of
> both tasks - and indeed the misterhouse etc functionality too...
> I have a shuttle sv25 with a 1 gig celery in it as my MP3/WMA
> server and
> it's not a bad bit of kit.  Am adding various other bits of
> software to it
> over time as it's only ticking over....
> The standard CPU fan that comes with them is a but noisy, so
> I used the one
> that came with the Celery - which is fine as long as you don't want to=
> install a PCI card in the box - which I don't anyway.
> The newer SV50/55(?) is much quieter apparently, and can take
> 'real' cpu's.
> Either of the mobos should be fine for what you want to do -
> it's just a
> question of which processor to go for......
> Can't comment on DivX as am not into that, though I expect
> the beefier the
> better really....
>
> HTH
>
>
> Tony
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Marcus Warrington [mailto:marcusw@xxxxxxx]
> > Sent: 09 July 2002 13:21
> > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx > > Subject: [ukha_d] Shuttle & via epia
> >
> >
> > Just looking at the Via Epia boards and the Shuttle PC's..
> > has anyone used
> > these?
> >
> > They sound like they could be ideal for having in Node0,
> > small and low heat.
> >
> > I'm thinking of maybe having one (Epia) as an internet
> > gateway and firewall
> > (using
> > a USB ADSL connection). Another as an (wholehouse) MP3
> jukebox and yet
> > another as
> > a (wholehouse) DivX Jukebox (and DVD). Does anyone know if
> > they're up to the
> > job ?
> > I'm thinking that maybe they won't have enough grunt to
> > decode Divx (output
> > via SVHS)
> > or act as a PVR ?
> >
> > In the future another could also be running misterhouse or
> > some other such
> > software.
> >
> > Marcus
> >
> >
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