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As the original poster of the Kodak camera
offer to
this group I must apologise, it was not HA related, but I know a lot of
people
here like their gadgets and a bargain gadget is almost irresistible. But
sometimes these offers are too good to be true. I am not disappointed that
I did
not get a camera. Heck, I did not even need it, but I cannot resist a
bargain.
All this talk of involving trading standards, small claims etc. is a bit
over
the top for an offer that did seem a bit dodgy. There are
lots of
discussions about this elsewhere on the net and I agree with Julian
that this is off topic for this group.
Having said that I do enjoy this group for its
non
HA content and "comical wit".
Thanks
Mark Hopley
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 2:54
AM
Subject: [ukha_d] [OT] WTF is
happening
to ukha_d?
When I first joined this groudid seemp I wthatas greeted
with open arms and received
some great help from various apresentre to
good
to be trueindividuals with regards to my new house build
and the ideas I
had. That was about five months ago...
Over the past two days there
has
been 175 posts to this group regarding
Kodak cameras, wasting (yes
wasting)
~1797034bytes (1.71megs) of bandwidth
per user. With 429 registered
users,
that more data than you can fit on a CD
being basically wasted by the
rants
and complaints of a pile of people who
honestly have nothing better to
do
than complain and/or create idle chit
chat.
I suspect that 350+
users in this group don't really care whether you got in
on the Kodak
web-sham or whether your complaints get replied to by the other
people
who
ordered cameras. I would suggest however, that you take
this
conversation
to another board, which actually has some relevance to
digital
cameras/Kodak/legal wrangling as I honestly don't think this is
the
place...
I can bet the first thing some people will think is "this is a
one
off, this
volume of Spam only happens once in a while", but it does
happen
and it will
happen more as this group turns from an email forum into
email
based IRC...
On another note, Stuart Poulton's comments about the
amount of white noise
on this group was extremely accurate. His comment
"I'm not complaining, but
I'm sure that the noise on the e-mail now
exceeds
the content contained
within." is most defiantly true. As a few of you
did
with Stuarts email, I
suspect you will either take the pish out of this
email or get extremely
arsey about it.
Mark's comment "We had a
big
discussion on this not that long ago and the
consensus was pretty much
the
majority didn't want any change in the "chat"
on the list." is basically
a
crock. People who tend to voice their opinion
on this matter are the
regulars, who just drown out any valid comments with
childish banter and
sheer volume of emails.
I cannot believe that 350+ people are
receiving
this group, and reading it
with delight at the comical wit and non-HA
related banter that goes on here.
I for one only read articles that
don't
have RE: in them until I find a
thread that is even worth looking. I
prefer
to put my brain in gear and
actively seek out the answers to my own
networking problems, bargains, news,
reviews, software set up issues
etc.
There are a million other boards/news
groups/yahoo groups/irc channels
that
can help out with these problems,
faster and more accurately, why do we
have to bring it to a ukha_d ? Some of
us get networking/os/install and
internet stuffed in our faces all day, why
should we have to suffer this
when we sit down in the evening to read the
days HA related
info?
I
wish that anything unrelated to HA could automatically be flagged as
OT
before it was sent out to the rest of the members, or moderated in
some
way
but you (the majority of the vocal few) have all made your opinions
clear,
that you want to stick with the Neanderthal that is yahoo
groups...
I can see a whole bunch of "why don't you just vote with
your
feet and
unsubscribe then" messages coming my way in the morning, but I
will continue
to read this group and assist with HA stuff in any way I
can.
If you agree with me and wish to send support of what I have
covered here,
please don't fill this group with replies, send me an
email
to
jules@xxxxxxx
If you feel like flaming me, please don't
fill this newsgroup with replies,
send me an educated, and thought out
email to jules@xxxxxxx
I just feel sorry for the people who only
get to download this group every
weekend on a 56k
modem...
Regards,
Jules
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