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RE: xAP - The Proposed Architecture Explained...


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  • Subject: RE: xAP - The Proposed Architecture Explained...
  • From: "Paul Gordon" <paul_gordon@xxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 13:02:28 +0100
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Mark,

Seeing as you (or rather SWMBO) is looking at this right now, could you ask
her if she can figure out how to get the Outlook object model to retreive an
unread count from Hotmail?...

As you probably know, Outlook 2002 (a.k.a. Outlook XP) supports hotmail
directly as a mail service, and can be added to the folder list & outlook
bar, just like any other...

However, I've been trying to figure out the folder ID to use to retrieve the
properties of the folder programatically (and failing). I can access all the
"standard" Outlook folders OK, but don't seem to be able to find the magic
word to read the hotmail folder...

My alternative solution this is to ditch Hotmail althogether, and have _all_
my mail delivered to my Exchange mailbox at home, and access it via OWA
(which is on my long-term list of TTD anyway), but I'm not going to do that
until I have upgraded my server to Windows 2000/Exchange 2000...

Reckon I could get anything in an auction for my hotmail address? (complete
with paid-for extra storage)... ;-)

TIA

Paul G.



>From: "Mark Harrison" <Mark.Harrison@xxxxxxx>
>Reply-To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx >To: <ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
>Subject: RE: [ukha_d] xAP - The Proposed Architecture Explained...
>Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 12:40:58 +0100
>
>Subscription model = hard to develop.
>
>Broadcast model = trivial to develop, so plugins will get written. (Most of
>the "unread count" plugin for Outlook is now done!)
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: BUTLER, Tony, FM [mailto:roaming@xxxxxxx]
>Sent: 14 August 2002 12:17
>To: 'ukha_d@xxxxxxx'
>Subject: RE: [ukha_d] xAP - The Proposed Architecture Explained...
>
>
> > The proposed architecture is such that there will be, on the
> > "network", multiple different "input" devices all
> > BROADCASTING their information.
> >
> > It will be up to each individual "output" device to determine
> > which of those messages it treats as things to display, and
> > which it treats as potential triggers.
>
>Mark, I haven't been following this thread completely, so forgive me if
>this
>has already been discussed.
>If you are boradcasting these messages all over the place, then as the
>number of devices increases, you are generating shed loads of traffic that
>maybe only one or two (or even no) outputs is interested in.
>
>Have you considered a subscription based model where each output device
>subscribes to the service they are interested in (Marks unread count,
>outside temp etc) and the controlling pc or whatever only sends event data
>specifically to those devices which requested it.
>
>I know a bit more intelligence is required on the display and server side,
>but would save on potentially flooding the network with traffic -
>especially
>if you were monitoring something realtime....
>
>Perhaps for greatest flexibility (to allow for dumber clients) you would be
>able to configure a "service" as either broadcast or point to point and get
>the best of both worlds.......
>
>Just a thought.
>
>Tony
>
>
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