RE: Re: Displays round the house.

["Mark Harrison" <Mark.Harrison@xxxxxxx>]

Chris,

As I said, I think it's too early to have a serious debate about the
architecture.

Let's concentrate on pinning down the functional requriements first, then
look at how to implement.

Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Bond [mailto:chris@xxxxxxx]
Sent: 12 August 2002 10:57
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Re: Displays round the house.


Erm just an idea but if you use any standard serial VFD, there must be
a
product out there that can send 9pin serial over CAT5 to a box that has
a few controllers etc. 

Other way would be to TCP/IP enable the display and get it the
information from a server, I'd prefer the this option myself.

Kind Regards,
Chris Bond
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Harrison [mailto:Mark.Harrison@xxxxxxx] 
Sent: 12 August 2002 10:54 AM
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Re: Displays round the house.

Stuart,

I know you are :-) I've been following the discussions about VFD for
hamp3r and that's what's prompted me to start thinking about other
applications for them.

- I'm not at the "detail designing a system" stage.

- I'm not even at the "suggesting that a few of us get together to
work
on something" stage.

- I'm only at the "what would people on the list like to use such
a
system for" stage.

I think that, with all the "I would like this system to do that"
debate
that's been going on around other things, I'd try to kick this one off
with an open requirements debate.

I doubt very much that ALL the requirements will be delivered in
version
1, or even version 2 or 3 of the project, but getting an idea of the
ultimate scope would be useful at this stage, so a sufficiently open
architecture can be developed.

I have a rough idea on how this will fit together architecturally. I
was
imagining a (probably Linux based in v.1, but platform-neutral later)
"Display Server" that would talk to the output devices over CAT5.
This
server would have a published plugin architecture to allow it to
request
information from other apps and/or those apps to request "display
space"
>from
The hard decisions are around designing the "plugin" architecture
to
allow that to communicate with systems as diverse as HomeVision,
HomeSeer, Outlook, Exchange, a POP3 server, an IM server...

I don't think that anyone can make these decisions until we have a
rough
idea of the creative scope of potential use.

The same applies to the size / resolution of the displays. Ideally, the
server will cope with multiple display sizes, and have some mechanism
to
decouple the presentation logic from the application logic. However,
until we have an idea of what might be displayed, then I don't think we
can determine what sizes might be sensible.

Regards,

Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: Stuart Poulton [mailto:swp@xxxxxxx]
Sent: 12 August 2002 10:39
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Re: Displays round the house.


Hi All,

If it's high quality, visable across the room, then probably looking at
VFD's.

I'm currently talking to a UK VFD supplier about displays for use with
hamp3r.

Whats size display would you like, both physically, and in terms of
columns, and lines.

Stuart

> > With the ever-increasing cheapness of text-based displays
(high-
> quality ones
> > that can be read across a room!), and the fact that I'm sure we
can 
> all get
> > lots of information out of our HA controllers, I'm wondering
what
> > information SHOULD be displayed around the house.





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