RE: After opinons of an aesthetic nature

[Robert Chasmer <robert.chasmer@xxxxxxx>]

Timothy Morris [mailto:timothy.morris@xxxxxxx] wrote:
> I've got the choice of installing 30 20W downlighters or 16 50W
> downlighters to cover the main living area.  I'm really at
sixes
> and sevens. Obviously 30 downlighters offer more flexibility,
> but on the downside the total cost is much more and I think that
> 30 lights in the ceiling may be a bit overwhelming.

I guess it depends on the size of your room.  Unless its a palace
though, 30
ceiling mounted lights does seem a lot.  My lounge is 21' x 11'8
(Approx
6.4m x 3.5m).  When we moved in the previous owners had removed the
two
ceiling roses, and but in two wall lighters.  They done this in other
rooms
as well, leaving us with a very dark house.  I added two table lambs
to sit
on the mantel peice and 9 mains halogen lights in the ceiling like so:-

            +--
Patio  Door --+
           
                  
  Key:-
              
o     x     o     o
- Zone 1
           
                  
  x - Zone 2
           
L                
C  L - Zone 3
              
x           x  
  C - Zone 4
           
Fire              
           
Place             
              
x           x  
           
L                
C
           
                  
              
o           o  
           
AMP     TV     FISH (Fish are in
planning stage)
            +----
Window  ----+

You might think it would be a little dark in the middle but this
doesn't
seem to be the case.  I can't remember the watage of the halogens, I
think
it may have been 30w, they are damn bright.

Each light is wired independantley but ends up in distribution boxes in
the
ceiling just above the lightswitch.  At the moment there tied together
into
the four zones and controled by 2 double dimmer switches.  I ordered
the
Lutron Garphic Eye switch which replaces those last week (only two
years
late).  I think wiring up the whole house for HA control of the lights
will
need to wait till we build our own house.  I'd want a system that
worked
independantly of a PC, but could still interface with it.  I'm
very
interested to know how your new system turns out.  Lutron does what I
want
for now, is very expensive, but I'm only going to have it in one room.


> I'm actually trying to find the right fittings at the moment.
> I've seen some that aren't eyeballs but can be changed from
> "tilts" to straight downlighters.

I got mine from Homebase, I thing B+Q do them as well.  They came in
packs
of three and the box what mostley light blue or maybe green.  They are
flush
mounted in the ceiling (no eyes), mains so no transformer, and are able
to
be angled in 1 dimension.

I have a some of mine angled towards the walls to illuminate
pictures.  I
guess you can rotate the whole fitting if need be, as long as the
springs
have a clear space.  The bigest problem for me was ensuring the lights
would
be evenly spaced, but not be under the wooden beams (not going to carve
holes in them just for lights).  To get the lights where I wanted them
some
are very close to the beams which means the spring clips which hold them
in
place are not fully relaxed. 



Rob

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