RE: House in self-defence mode...

["Nikola Kasic" <nikola@xxxxxxx>]

I'm not trying to develop political discussion, what's right or wrong or what should be...

Sorry if it looked like that, maybe it slipped a bit...

I just wanted to know what's the legal aspect installing automated anti-theft stuff in house, so it should be on-topic.

What it should be legal to install, and what should be not... I suppose that we should then go for CE approved and such stuff, but such completed solutions are usually very expensive.

My point is that people already complained that CCTV doesn't give them enough protection. If burglar is wearing mask it's almost useless and if burglar knows that nobody is in home, he can disable siren relatively easily and work in peace regardless of CCTV, so you want something to stop them in their job.

That supercloak looks cool and it's harmless, but probably expensive.

Again, you don't want some fire throwing devices and similar, which will burn your house so you'll be better off with being robbed...

Is there anything similar around?

Nik

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Kenneth Watt [mailto:kennwatt@xxxxxxx]
Sent: 22 April 2002 16:24
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxxSubject: RE: [ukha_d] House in self-defence mode...

Two words…”Nanny State”!

 

You are now entering into the mad world of politics and political correctness which, IMO, is OTT on this subject.

 

K.

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Nikola Kasic [mailto:nikola@xxxxxxx]
Sent: 22 April 2002 15:43
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxxSubject: RE: [ukha_d] House in self-defence mode...

 

What I don't understand is:

People walk dogs on the street and if dog bites someone you can get sued, so it's O.K.

However, if I keep dog to protect my house, like many people do, the dog is supposed to bark and it's quite possible to bite the intrude (it's almost expected from poor dog). Can he sue me then? There are thousands of such homes protected by the dog ,although that's not always a prime reason for having a dog.

If it's O.K. for dog to chase and bite the intruder (you cannot train dog to bark only or to tell the robber to go away), what's the difference having snake or some other potentially dangerous animal.

Again, if that's O.K. what's the difference having animal or some other mechanism of self defence. Where to draw the line?

 

Also, on the building site where someone is using explosive, you have visible warning signs and you have a warning siren before the explosive is lit. If someone walks into dangerous zone, despite all the warnings, sirens, people trying to stop him, and he gets hurt, can he sue them? I suppose not - he'll be considered lunatic, or wanting to get hurt.

So what's the difference there, if you put all the warning signs, put siren and announcements and someone still gets into your house. Why he can sue you then for being hur?. Why he would not be considered lunatic?

Just thinking aloud...

Nik

-----Original Message-----
From: Kenneth Watt [mailto:kennwatt@xxxxxxx]
Sent: 22 April 2002 13:28
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxxSubject: RE: [ukha_d] House in self-defence mode...

Somebody used to do something like this as part of a security system
IIRC, but I don't think it got approval. You never know you might give
the thieving <insert expletive> a heart attack or something.

Personally, if I catch anyone in the house then there's a big, sharp bit
of metal that tells them to leave ;-)

"I thought he was going to try and kill someone officer and I had to
protect the family!"

K.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Crowther [mailto:scrowther@xxxxxxx]
> Sent: 22 April 2002 13:05
> To: 'ukha_d@xxxxxxx'
> Subject: RE: [ukha_d] House in self-defence mode...
>
> how about those smoke bombs that make it impossible to see
> so they have to leave as they can't see to steal anything?
>
>
> Scott Crowther
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