RE: Digest Number 1074

["Mark McCall" <mark@xxxxxxx>]

Venue:
Old Kings Head
45 Borough High Street
Southwark
(near London Bridge)

 

Map:
http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?grid2map?x=532750&y=180250&zoom=1&isp=187&ism=500&arrow=y?73,135

M.

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Gordon [mailto:steve@xxxxxxx]
Sent: 05 September 2001 20:30
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxxSubject: RE: [ukha_d] Digest Number 1074

I'm up for a meet in London. Where is the 'Usual place'?

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx]
Sent: 05 September 2001 18:31
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxxSubject: [ukha_d] Digest Number 1074



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There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. RE: IPAQ, CF & PCMCIA
           From: "Murgatroyd, Paul" <paul.murgatroyd@xxxxxxx>
      2. Re: IPAQ, CF & PCMCIA
           From: "Mark McCall" <mark@xxxxxxx>
      3. Re: Finally! - X10 kits for sale
           From: "Mark Hetherington"
<mark.egroups@xxxxxxx>
      4. RE: Finally! - X10 kits for sale
           From: "Graham Howe" <graham@xxxxxxx>
      5. RE: Re: Anyone for a London Meet on Tues 11th Sept ?
           From: "Phil Harris" <phillip.harris1@xxxxxxx>
      6. RE: Views on X10 Addressing
           From: "Phil Harris" <phillip.harris1@xxxxxxx>
      7. RE: [OT] Petrol Pumps ....was Views on X10 Addressing
           From: "Phil Harris" <phillip.harris1@xxxxxxx>
      8. RE: Anyone for a London Meet on Tues 11th Sept ?
           From: "Timothy Morris" <timothy.morris@xxxxxxx>
      9. Something to Make TIVO owners cry.
           From: Stuart Poulton <swp@xxxxxxx>
     10. RE: OT - Digital Cameras
           From: "K. C. Li" <li@xxxxxxx>
     11. RE: IPAQ, CF & PCMCIA
           From: "Timothy Morris" <timothy.morris@xxxxxxx>
     12. Re: IPAQ, CF & PCMCIA
           From: "Mark McCall" <mark@xxxxxxx>
     13. Re: New 1 Wire Devices from Dallas
           From: Ian Oliver <ioliver.lists@xxxxxxx>
     14. Re: New 1 Wire Devices from Dallas
           From: Stuart Grimshaw <stuart@xxxxxxx>
     15. RE: Anyone for a London Meet on Tues 11th Sept ?
           From: "Broadfoot, Kieran J" <Kieran.Broadfoot@xxxxxxx>
     16. RE: New 1 Wire Devices from Dallas
           From: Keith Doxey <ukha@xxxxxxx>
     17. RE: [OT] Petrol Pumps ....was Views on X10 Addressing
           From: "Mark Harrison" <Mark.Harrison@xxxxxxx>
     18. Re: New 1 Wire Devices from Dallas
           From: Jeff <ukha@xxxxxxx>
     19. RE: OT - Digital Cameras
           From: "Phil Harris" <phillip.harris1@xxxxxxx>
     20. Home control terminal
           From: patrickl@xxxxxxx     21. Re: IPAQ, CF & PCMCIA
           From: "K. C. Li" <li@xxxxxxx>
     22. Re: [OT] Petrol Pumps ....was Views on X10 Addressing
           From: "Geraint Morris" <geraint@xxxxxxx>
     23. Re: IPAQ, CF & PCMCIA
           From: "Mark McCall" <mark@xxxxxxx>
     24. CAT 5 testers
           From: "Tracey Gardner" <tracey.gardner@xxxxxxx>
     25. Re: Views on X10 Addressing
           From: "the-croft" <alan@xxxxxxx>


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Message: 1
   Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 13:13:46 +0100
   From: "Murgatroyd, Paul" <paul.murgatroyd@xxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: IPAQ, CF & PCMCIA

sorry to upset everyone, but I think you should check here

http://www.semperaptus.com/news/081501.shtml
<http://www.semperaptus.com/news/081501.shtml>

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark McCall [mailto:mark@xxxxxxx]
Sent: 05 September 2001 12:31
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxxSubject: Re: [ukha_d] IPAQ, CF & PCMCIA


I have read there will be a standard and advanced (something like that)
version of Merlin, designed for 16 and 32 meg machines respectively.  Dunno
if this means their RAM or ROM though?

Certainly does seem that flash upgradeable machines like iPAQ will be able
to get the new OS.

M.



----- Original Message -----
From: Justin <mailto:justin@xxxxxxx>
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx <mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: [ukha_d] IPAQ, CF & PCMCIA

Thanks Mark.
Now I just have to resist buying one for the moment and wait for the new
version & hopefully the prices will drop.

Does anyone know if it will be possible to upgrade an old IPAQ with the new
MS Pocket PC version that is out soon?

Justin

----- Original Message -----
From: Mark McCall <mailto:mark@xxxxxxx>
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx <mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 11:51 AM
Subject: Re: [ukha_d] IPAQ, CF & PCMCIA

Yep...this is no problem.  This is how I use my Micro Drive in the iPAQ.

M.


----- Original Message -----
From: Justin <mailto:justin@xxxxxxx>
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx <mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 11:46 AM
Subject: [ukha_d] IPAQ, CF & PCMCIA

I am thinking of getting an IPAQ but was wondering if there is any reason
why I could not
use a PCMCIA to CF adapter so I only have to buy a PCMCIA sleeve but can
still use CF cards.
Anyone tried this?

Cheers

Justin




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Message: 2
   Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 13:57:30 +0100
   From: "Mark McCall" <mark@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: IPAQ, CF & PCMCIA

I'm not upset at all.  You gotta expect that type of thing.  Point is it's
still upgradeable if you want.  Most other PDAs aren't.  No reason not to
install other apps in the main memory either, like you have to do with the
latest Media Player anyway!

Some early iPAQs also have 32 meg ROM I believe (Li?) as 16 meg ROM chips
were in such short supply.

M.


  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Murgatroyd, Paul
  To: 'ukha_d@xxxxxxx'
  Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 1:13 PM
  Subject: RE: [ukha_d] IPAQ, CF & PCMCIA


  sorry to upset everyone, but I think you should check here

  http://www.semperaptus.com/news/081501.shtml

  Paul
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Mark McCall [mailto:mark@xxxxxxx]
    Sent: 05 September 2001 12:31
    To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx    Subject: Re: [ukha_d] IPAQ, CF & PCMCIA


    I have read there will be a standard and advanced (something like that)
version of Merlin, designed for 16 and 32 meg machines respectively.  Dunno
if this means their RAM or ROM though?

    Certainly does seem that flash upgradeable machines like iPAQ will be
able to get the new OS.

    M.


      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Justin
      To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx      Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 12:24 PM
      Subject: Re: [ukha_d] IPAQ, CF & PCMCIA


      Thanks Mark.
      Now I just have to resist buying one for the moment and wait for the
new version & hopefully the prices will drop.

      Does anyone know if it will be possible to upgrade an old IPAQ with
the new MS Pocket PC version that is out soon?

      Justin
        ----- Original Message -----
        From: Mark McCall
        To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx        Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 11:51 AM
        Subject: Re: [ukha_d] IPAQ, CF & PCMCIA


        Yep...this is no problem.  This is how I use my Micro Drive in the
iPAQ.

        M.

          ----- Original Message -----
          From: Justin
          To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx          Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 11:46 AM
          Subject: [ukha_d] IPAQ, CF & PCMCIA


          I am thinking of getting an IPAQ but was wondering if there is any
reason
          why I could not
          use a PCMCIA to CF adapter so I only have to buy a PCMCIA sleeve
but can
          still use CF cards.
          Anyone tried this?

          Cheers

          Justin




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Message: 3
   Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 12:57:45 -0000
   From: "Mark Hetherington" <mark.egroups@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Finally! - X10 kits for sale

--- In ukha_d@y..., "Paul Gordon" <paul_gordon@h...> wrote:
> Unless I'm missing something obvious (wouldn't be the 1st time!) I
don't
> seem to able to calculate Parcelfarce costs without knowing the
destination

Parcel force costs follow for ENGLAND, WALES & SCOTLAND
excluding HIGHLANDS & ISLANDS. For Northern Ireland, the Standard
service is the same price but the guaranteed services are slightly
more. (shown in brackets below)


Guaranteed delivery services up to 10KGs all have one price as
follows:

Parcelforce By 9am      £31.85 (NI 71.70)
Parcelforce By 10am      £25.90 (NI 58.20)
Parcelforce By Noon      £18.30 (NI 41.20)
(Above include £250 compensation insurance which can be increased for
an additional fee of a couple of pounds)
Parcelforce 24              £14.60 (NI 32.85)
Parcelforce 48              £11.45 (NI 16.00)
(Above include £150 compensation insurance which can be increased for
an additional fee of a couple of pounds)

Heavier parcels attract higher prices.

Parcelforce Standard by weight:

0.5      3.10
1.0      3.10
1.5      4.00
2.0      4.30
2.5      6.50
3.0      6.50
3.5      6.50
4.0      6.50
4.5      7.05
5.0      7.05
5.5      7.05
6.0      7.05
6.5      8.05
7.0      8.05
7.5      8.05
8.0      8.05
8.5      8.65
9.0      8.65
9.5      8.65
10.0      8.65

10.5      and over is flat charge of 10.10

Max 30KG for Standard.

Standard service only has £25 compensation insurance which will cover
single kits. For multiple kits, additional options are:

£100 compensation for £0.40
£250 compensation for £1.00
£500 compensation for £2.00

For the full tariffs, visit
http://www.parcelforce.com/tariff/Default.asp?fromintranet=true
and download the spreadsheet.

HTH.

Mark.



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Message: 4
   Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 14:07:27 +0100
   From: "Graham Howe" <graham@xxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: Finally! - X10 kits for sale

Parcel Force Standard is the same price to all of the UK (even that funny
bit to the left of Wales ;-) so just pick any postcode and try it.

Graham



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Message: 5
   Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 14:02:31 +0100
   From: "Phil Harris" <phillip.harris1@xxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: Re: Anyone for a London Meet on Tues 11th Sept ?


Erm ... believe me ... I wouldn't want to!

Phil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Keith Doxey [mailto:ukha@xxxxxxx]
> Sent: 05 September 2001 13:32
> To: ukha_d
> Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Re: Anyone for a London Meet on Tues 11th Sept ?
>
>
> NO !!!!!!!
>
> Dont even go there !
>
> Keith
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Phil Harris [mailto:phillip.harris1@xxxxxxx]
> Sent: 05 September 2001 13:15
> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx> Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Re: Anyone for a London Meet on Tues 11th Sept ?
>
>
>
> Please God not in the same place as Mick hid the sausages on Survivor!
>
> Phil
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Keith Doxey [mailto:ukha@xxxxxxx]
> > Sent: 05 September 2001 11:33
> > To: ukha_d
> > Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Re: Anyone for a London Meet on Tues 11th Sept ?
> >
> >
> > Excellent :-))
> >
> > I might even conceal a set of KAT5's about my person :-))
> >
> > Keith
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: richard@xxxxxxx [mailto:richard@xxxxxxx]
> > Sent: 05 September 2001 09:58
> > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx> > Subject: [ukha_d] Re: Anyone for a London Meet on Tues 11th Sept ?
> >
> >
> > Keith,
> >
> > I will be at Plasa on the Tuesday (the company I work for are
> > exhibiting) So assuming I don't end up having to entertain any
> > clients then I'm up for a meet.
> >
> > You could also pass by the stand and grab a coffee :-)
> >
> > Richard Passman
> > Technical Manager AV
> > Northern Light Stage and Technical Services Ltd
> > Tel: +44 1491 577870 Fax: +44 1491 637611
> > Mob: +44 7970 916953
> >
> >
> > --- In ukha_d@y..., "Keith Doxey" <ukha@d...> wrote:
> > > Sounds good to me.
> > >
> > > Plasa finishes at 6:00 so by the time I have had a wander round and
> > possibly
> > > grabbed a bite to eat ( if food is not on the agenda ), it will be
> > 7:30.
> > >
> > > Keith
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Message: 6
   Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 14:02:34 +0100
   From: "Phil Harris" <phillip.harris1@xxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: Views on X10 Addressing


> The TF678 Whole House Filter/Coupler can handle up to 200A. It should be
> enough for your AV and gadgets wonderland.

Stick it on the list for the first order once some money is coming back into
the house! (Along with the half dozen LD10s, more Clipsal faceplates, three
AD10s etc...)

*grin*

Phil



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Message: 7
   Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 14:02:30 +0100
   From: "Phil Harris" <phillip.harris1@xxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: [OT] Petrol Pumps ....was Views on X10 Addressing

We have a filling station close by with the "unleaded + unleaded" pumps ...
I've never worked out why that is either!

Phil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Keith Doxey [mailto:ukha@xxxxxxx]
> Sent: 05 September 2001 13:42
> To: ukha_d
> Subject: RE: [OT] Petrol Pumps ....was [ukha_d] Views on X10 Addressing
>
>
> 4 hoses.
>
> Very advanced.
>
> Most pumps round our way only have 2 hoses on each of the 4 pumps.
>
> Usually....
>
> Unleaded + 4 Star
> Unleaded + 4 Star
> Unleaded + Unleaded  (Why 2 the same I DONT know!!)
> Unleaded + Diesel.
>
> As the driver of a Diesel vehicle it NEVER ceases to amaze me that the
> driver of a Petrol engined vehicle will pull onto the EMPTY forecourt to
> fill up and stops at the ONLY pump that has Diesel to fill their car with
> Unleaded. THEN....despite the fact that there is a vehicle behind theirs
> with a Diesel engine knocking away... they go into the shop, spend bloody
> ages choosing sweets and papers etc before a leisurely stroll
> back to their
> car.
>
> Of course.....it ALWAYS happens when I am already in a rush :-((
>
> I guess the fact that the people round here cant get to grips
> with filling a
> fuel tank explains why the local Homebase took so long to shift all the
> goodies they had on the shelves.
>
> Keith
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Phil Harris [mailto:phillip.harris1@xxxxxxx]
> Sent: 05 September 2001 13:15
> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx> Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Views on X10 Addressing
>
>
> Very good point ... however having met many of my neighbours and finding
> that most of them have just about got to grips with choosing the
> right hose
> from the four possibles on a garage forecourt then home automation is
> somewhat beyond them.
>
>
>
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Message: 8
   Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 14:15:34 +0100
   From: "Timothy Morris" <timothy.morris@xxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: Anyone for a London Meet on Tues 11th Sept ?

No, I'm not taking offence at all. I hadn't actually noticed the domain
before. But working for the yanks you can't have it all ;-)

Tim

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Broadfoot, Kieran J [mailto:Kieran.Broadfoot@xxxxxxx]
> Sent: 05 September 2001 13:15
> To: 'ukha_d@xxxxxxx'
> Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Anyone for a London Meet on Tues 11th Sept ?
>
>
> Tim,
>
> Are you seriously taking offence at my reference to city types?
> I dont want
> to go down that road except in private email but please take note
> of where i
> work and youll notice i had my tongue firmly placed in my cheek.
>
> Thanks
>       Kieran
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Timothy Morris [mailto:timothy.morris@xxxxxxx]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 12:58 PM
> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx> Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Anyone for a London Meet on Tues 11th Sept ?
>
>
> Well I can beat you there, I'm probably one of the people you disparage so
> easily. Last time I actually went to work it was in a dealing room as a
> Eurobond Sales Manager.
>
> I could often be seen in Corney & Barrow at lunchtime ;-)
>
> Tim.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Broadfoot, Kieran J [mailto:Kieran.Broadfoot@xxxxxxx]
> > Sent: 05 September 2001 12:48
> > To: 'ukha_d@xxxxxxx'
> > Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Anyone for a London Meet on Tues 11th Sept ?
> >
> >
> > Tim,
> >
> > The words I would like to use I cant on this public forum ;-)
> >
> > btw i live 10 minutes from the city and work on fleet street.. i know it
> > pretty well.
> >
> > thanks
> >       kieran "city type" broadfoot
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Timothy Morris [mailto:timothy.morris@xxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 12:33 PM
> > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx> > Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Anyone for a London Meet on Tues 11th Sept ?
> >
> >
> > And what may I ask is wrong with the city types?
> >
> > Tim - who's office address is (officially) 6 Broadgate
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Broadfoot, Kieran J [mailto:Kieran.Broadfoot@xxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: 05 September 2001 07:51
> > > To: 'ukha_d@xxxxxxx'
> > > Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Anyone for a London Meet on Tues 11th Sept ?
> > >
> > >
> > > Oh ok then...! Same place as usual to avoid the city types up
> > > near liverpool
> > > street?
> > >
> > > thanks
> > >       k_i_e_r_a_n ;-)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Paul Gordon [mailto:paul_gordon@xxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 10:01 PM
> > > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx> > > Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Anyone for a London Meet on Tues 11th Sept ?
> > >
> > >
> > > Does a bear shit in the woods?.... :-)
> > >
> > > I'll be working in Brighton that day (and the following day), but
> > > if I take
> > > train instead of driving, I'll be getting back into Victoria by about
> > > 6:45-7ish, and could be over near Liverpool St. by 7:30 tops.
> > >
> > > Hmmm.... Beer.....  Keiron?
> > >
> > > Paul G.
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >Hi All,
> > > >
> > > >I will be in London next Tuesday (11th Sept) for the Plasa
> 2001 show at
> > > >Earls Court (10:00-18:00) and dont have to be back at
> Liverpool Street
> > > >until
> > > >23:30.
> > > >
> > > >Anyone fancy meeting up somewhere, preferably within easy reach of
> > > >Liverpool
> > > >Street as I dont know London that well.
> > > >
> > > >Ian and Patrick previously mentioned that they are interested.
> > > Anyone else
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Message: 9
   Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 14:29:10 +0100 (BST)
   From: Stuart Poulton <swp@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Something to Make TIVO owners cry.


Take a look at

http://slashdot.org/articles/01/09/05/1225259.shtml

and then

http://www.replaytv.com/partners_products/replaytv.htm

Basically it's a tivo, with network interface and up to 320 hours of
record time. Shame about the price of $2000

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Message: 10
   Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 13:43:54 +0100 (BST)
   From: "K. C. Li" <li@xxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: OT - Digital Cameras

On Wed, 5 Sep 2001, Phil Harris wrote:

> Since buying the big Oly E10 I miss having a small point and squirt camera
> that I could carry everywhere with me (which is what I used to do with the
> previous digicams) and I intend getting an IXUS at some point.

LOL. No change there then.

Regards,

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Message: 11
   Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 14:29:32 +0100
   From: "Timothy Morris" <timothy.morris@xxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: IPAQ, CF & PCMCIA

Actually, I've just re-read the article, and I'm pissed off this time. It
really smacks of the "We'll sell you a device based on its upgradeability,
but when you upgrade half of the really useful facilities won't be there". I
get the impression that the features will be pulled not for technical, but
for marketing reasons. That's the bit that makes me cross.

I'm going to scream and scream until I'm sick.

Tim.
  -----Original Message-----
  From: Mark McCall [mailto:mark@xxxxxxx]
  Sent: 05 September 2001 13:58
  To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx  Subject: Re: [ukha_d] IPAQ, CF & PCMCIA


  I'm not upset at all.  You gotta expect that type of thing.  Point is it's
still upgradeable if you want.  Most other PDAs aren't.  No reason not to
install other apps in the main memory either, like you have to do with the
latest Media Player anyway!

  Some early iPAQs also have 32 meg ROM I believe (Li?) as 16 meg ROM chips
were in such short supply.

  M.


    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Murgatroyd, Paul
    To: 'ukha_d@xxxxxxx'
    Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 1:13 PM
    Subject: RE: [ukha_d] IPAQ, CF & PCMCIA


    sorry to upset everyone, but I think you should check here

    http://www.semperaptus.com/news/081501.shtml

    Paul
      -----Original Message-----
      From: Mark McCall [mailto:mark@xxxxxxx]
      Sent: 05 September 2001 12:31
      To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx      Subject: Re: [ukha_d] IPAQ, CF & PCMCIA


      I have read there will be a standard and advanced (something like
that) version of Merlin, designed for 16 and 32 meg machines respectively.
Dunno if this means their RAM or ROM though?

      Certainly does seem that flash upgradeable machines like iPAQ will be
able to get the new OS.

      M.


        ----- Original Message -----
        From: Justin
        To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx        Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 12:24 PM
        Subject: Re: [ukha_d] IPAQ, CF & PCMCIA


        Thanks Mark.
        Now I just have to resist buying one for the moment and wait for the
new version & hopefully the prices will drop.

        Does anyone know if it will be possible to upgrade an old IPAQ with
the new MS Pocket PC version that is out soon?

        Justin
          ----- Original Message -----
          From: Mark McCall
          To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx          Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 11:51 AM
          Subject: Re: [ukha_d] IPAQ, CF & PCMCIA


          Yep...this is no problem.  This is how I use my Micro Drive in the
iPAQ.

          M.

            ----- Original Message -----
            From: Justin
            To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx            Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 11:46 AM
            Subject: [ukha_d] IPAQ, CF & PCMCIA


            I am thinking of getting an IPAQ but was wondering if there is
any reason
            why I could not
            use a PCMCIA to CF adapter so I only have to buy a PCMCIA sleeve
but can
            still use CF cards.
            Anyone tried this?

            Cheers

            Justin




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Message: 12
   Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 14:48:01 +0100
   From: "Mark McCall" <mark@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: IPAQ, CF & PCMCIA

In fairness I have upgraded my iPAQ's firmware twice now (1.69 and 1.77).
That's the type of upgrade I had assumed I could do.  I was not expecting I
could flash it to the _next generation_ of OS though so this is a bonus,
however limited.

The way things are going a current iPAQ is gonna look very dated even by
this time next year.  Sell to a mate Tim and buy the new one! :-)

M.


  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Timothy Morris
  To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx  Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 2:29 PM
  Subject: RE: [ukha_d] IPAQ, CF & PCMCIA


  Actually, I've just re-read the article, and I'm pissed off this time. It
really smacks of the "We'll sell you a device based on its upgradeability,
but when you upgrade half of the really useful facilities won't be there". I
get the impression that the features will be pulled not for technical, but
for marketing reasons. That's the bit that makes me cross.

  I'm going to scream and scream until I'm sick.

  Tim.
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Mark McCall [mailto:mark@xxxxxxx]
    Sent: 05 September 2001 13:58
    To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx    Subject: Re: [ukha_d] IPAQ, CF & PCMCIA


    I'm not upset at all.  You gotta expect that type of thing.  Point is
it's still upgradeable if you want.  Most other PDAs aren't.  No reason not
to install other apps in the main memory either, like you have to do with
the latest Media Player anyway!

    Some early iPAQs also have 32 meg ROM I believe (Li?) as 16 meg ROM
chips were in such short supply.

    M.


      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Murgatroyd, Paul
      To: 'ukha_d@xxxxxxx'
      Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 1:13 PM
      Subject: RE: [ukha_d] IPAQ, CF & PCMCIA


      sorry to upset everyone, but I think you should check here

      http://www.semperaptus.com/news/081501.shtml

      Paul
        -----Original Message-----
        From: Mark McCall [mailto:mark@xxxxxxx]
        Sent: 05 September 2001 12:31
        To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx        Subject: Re: [ukha_d] IPAQ, CF & PCMCIA


        I have read there will be a standard and advanced (something like
that) version of Merlin, designed for 16 and 32 meg machines respectively.
Dunno if this means their RAM or ROM though?

        Certainly does seem that flash upgradeable machines like iPAQ will
be able to get the new OS.

        M.


          ----- Original Message -----
          From: Justin
          To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx          Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 12:24 PM
          Subject: Re: [ukha_d] IPAQ, CF & PCMCIA


          Thanks Mark.
          Now I just have to resist buying one for the moment and wait for
the new version & hopefully the prices will drop.

          Does anyone know if it will be possible to upgrade an old IPAQ
with the new MS Pocket PC version that is out soon?

          Justin
            ----- Original Message -----
            From: Mark McCall
            To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx            Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 11:51 AM
            Subject: Re: [ukha_d] IPAQ, CF & PCMCIA


            Yep...this is no problem.  This is how I use my Micro Drive in
the iPAQ.

            M.

              ----- Original Message -----
              From: Justin
              To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx              Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 11:46 AM
              Subject: [ukha_d] IPAQ, CF & PCMCIA


              I am thinking of getting an IPAQ but was wondering if there is
any reason
              why I could not
              use a PCMCIA to CF adapter so I only have to buy a PCMCIA
sleeve but can
              still use CF cards.
              Anyone tried this?

              Cheers

              Justin




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Message: 13
   Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 14:54:26 +0100
   From: Ian Oliver <ioliver.lists@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: New 1 Wire Devices from Dallas

In article <002901c13606$77a21860$5dfe9284@xxxxxxx>, Keith Doxey wrote:
> DS2408 8 channel PIO (programmable input/output) [FUTURE DEVICE]
>  64bit address and 1024 bits of OTP eprom
>  (ideal for 4 remote switches with LED's or a small Keypad etc for HA use)

This is the only new one. I have digipots. 2-channel PIOs and AtoDs already.
All safe in little boxes waiting for me to have time to do something. :-)

Regards

Ian Oliver
Sunny Leeds, UK
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Message: 14
   Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 15:06:52 +0100
   From: Stuart Grimshaw <stuart@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: New 1 Wire Devices from Dallas

On Wednesday 05 September 2001 14:54 pm, Ian Oliver wrote:
> In article <002901c13606$77a21860$5dfe9284@xxxxxxx>, Keith Doxey wrote:
> > DS2408 8 channel PIO (programmable input/output) [FUTURE DEVICE]
> >  64bit address and 1024 bits of OTP eprom
> >  (ideal for 4 remote switches with LED's or a small Keypad etc for HA
> > use)
>
> This is the only new one. I have digipots. 2-channel PIOs and AtoDs
> already. All safe in little boxes waiting for me to have time to do
> something. :-)

I have the same, though I think there must be some 1-wire device gnomes
somewhere because they are all missing, along with 10 DS18B20's


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Message: 15
   Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 15:15:04 +0100
   From: "Broadfoot, Kieran J" <Kieran.Broadfoot@xxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: Anyone for a London Meet on Tues 11th Sept ?

no comment ;-)

k.


-----Original Message-----
From: Timothy Morris [mailto:timothy.morris@xxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 2:16 PM
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxxSubject: RE: [ukha_d] Anyone for a London Meet on Tues 11th Sept ?


No, I'm not taking offence at all. I hadn't actually noticed the domain
before. But working for the yanks you can't have it all ;-)

Tim

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Broadfoot, Kieran J [mailto:Kieran.Broadfoot@xxxxxxx]
> Sent: 05 September 2001 13:15
> To: 'ukha_d@xxxxxxx'
> Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Anyone for a London Meet on Tues 11th Sept ?
>
>
> Tim,
>
> Are you seriously taking offence at my reference to city types?
> I dont want
> to go down that road except in private email but please take note
> of where i
> work and youll notice i had my tongue firmly placed in my cheek.
>
> Thanks
>       Kieran
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Timothy Morris [mailto:timothy.morris@xxxxxxx]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 12:58 PM
> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx> Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Anyone for a London Meet on Tues 11th Sept ?
>
>
> Well I can beat you there, I'm probably one of the people you disparage so
> easily. Last time I actually went to work it was in a dealing room as a
> Eurobond Sales Manager.
>
> I could often be seen in Corney & Barrow at lunchtime ;-)
>
> Tim.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Broadfoot, Kieran J [mailto:Kieran.Broadfoot@xxxxxxx]
> > Sent: 05 September 2001 12:48
> > To: 'ukha_d@xxxxxxx'
> > Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Anyone for a London Meet on Tues 11th Sept ?
> >
> >
> > Tim,
> >
> > The words I would like to use I cant on this public forum ;-)
> >
> > btw i live 10 minutes from the city and work on fleet street.. i know it
> > pretty well.
> >
> > thanks
> >       kieran "city type" broadfoot
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Timothy Morris [mailto:timothy.morris@xxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 12:33 PM
> > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx> > Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Anyone for a London Meet on Tues 11th Sept ?
> >
> >
> > And what may I ask is wrong with the city types?
> >
> > Tim - who's office address is (officially) 6 Broadgate
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Broadfoot, Kieran J [mailto:Kieran.Broadfoot@xxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: 05 September 2001 07:51
> > > To: 'ukha_d@xxxxxxx'
> > > Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Anyone for a London Meet on Tues 11th Sept ?
> > >
> > >
> > > Oh ok then...! Same place as usual to avoid the city types up
> > > near liverpool
> > > street?
> > >
> > > thanks
> > >       k_i_e_r_a_n ;-)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Paul Gordon [mailto:paul_gordon@xxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 10:01 PM
> > > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx> > > Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Anyone for a London Meet on Tues 11th Sept ?
> > >
> > >
> > > Does a bear shit in the woods?.... :-)
> > >
> > > I'll be working in Brighton that day (and the following day), but
> > > if I take
> > > train instead of driving, I'll be getting back into Victoria by about
> > > 6:45-7ish, and could be over near Liverpool St. by 7:30 tops.
> > >
> > > Hmmm.... Beer.....  Keiron?
> > >
> > > Paul G.
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >Hi All,
> > > >
> > > >I will be in London next Tuesday (11th Sept) for the Plasa
> 2001 show at
> > > >Earls Court (10:00-18:00) and dont have to be back at
> Liverpool Street
> > > >until
> > > >23:30.
> > > >
> > > >Anyone fancy meeting up somewhere, preferably within easy reach of
> > > >Liverpool
> > > >Street as I dont know London that well.
> > > >
> > > >Ian and Patrick previously mentioned that they are interested.
> > > Anyone else
> > > >fancy joining us somewhere?
> > > >
> > > >Keith
> > > >
> > >
> > >
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Message: 16
   Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 15:24:45 +0100
   From: Keith Doxey <ukha@xxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: New 1 Wire Devices from Dallas

OK.

So some of the stuff has been out for a while.... but it was news to me.

As to the disappearing devices.... the problem is that when an A/D converter
or a Temperature Sensor required a PCB of Eurocard proportions and dozens of
components to make it work, you couldnt loose one that easily. Now they are
little black blobs with a few legs or worse still a little surface mount
speck of plastic, you cant see them on the bench, never mind finding them
when you "misplace" them !!!

Keith

-----Original Message-----
From: Stuart Grimshaw [mailto:stuart@xxxxxxx]
Sent: 05 September 2001 15:07
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxxSubject: Re: [ukha_d] New 1 Wire Devices from Dallas


On Wednesday 05 September 2001 14:54 pm, Ian Oliver wrote:
> In article <002901c13606$77a21860$5dfe9284@xxxxxxx>, Keith Doxey wrote:
> > DS2408 8 channel PIO (programmable input/output) [FUTURE DEVICE]
> >  64bit address and 1024 bits of OTP eprom
> >  (ideal for 4 remote switches with LED's or a small Keypad etc for HA
> > use)
>
> This is the only new one. I have digipots. 2-channel PIOs and AtoDs
> already. All safe in little boxes waiting for me to have time to do
> something. :-)

I have the same, though I think there must be some 1-wire device gnomes
somewhere because they are all missing, along with 10 DS18B20's


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Message: 17
   Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 15:32:58 +0100
   From: "Mark Harrison" <Mark.Harrison@xxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: [OT] Petrol Pumps ....was Views on X10 Addressing

Because the 4 pumps are actually:

      Tanks 1 + 2
      Tanks 1 + 2
      Tanks 1 + 3
      Tanks 1 + 4

This lets you deliver your "main fuel" (normally Unleaded) to any pump
by filling Tank 1, your "normal alternative" (normally LRP) to two
pumps, by filling Tank 2, and your two "specialist fuels"  (ULS and
DERV)to one each (by filling tanks 3 and 4)


The problem comes when you, Mr. local franchise owner, discover that
no-one in your area is going to pay the premium for ULS, and you've got
a tank that you end up just selling through rather than refilling.

You then wonder "so - what shall I fill it with?", and decide work out
that:

1: Most people buy UL, so you may as well have the "most capacity"
there, and you're still worried about the next fuel protest, and want
your buffer stocks up.

2: You work out that to switch from dispensing UL to LRP or DERV at a
pump is more complex than simply refilling the tank with the new grade.
You need to fit the smaller nozzles (such as fit UL cars) to the pumps,
you need to drain the tanks properly before adding DERV, wheras if you
switch from ULS UL to normal UL, you just top up the tank, and let the
first load of customers get a subtely lower sulphur level.)

Alternatively, you're doing it this way because you PLAN to introduce
ULS later, and want everything wired up properly for the launch.

Regards,

Mark Harrison
Head of Systems, eKingfisher


-----Original Message-----
From: Phil Harris [mailto:phillip.harris1@xxxxxxx]
Sent: 5 September 2001 14:03
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxxSubject: RE: [OT] Petrol Pumps ....was [ukha_d] Views on X10 Addressing


We have a filling station close by with the "unleaded + unleaded" pumps
...
I've never worked out why that is either!

Phil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Keith Doxey [mailto:ukha@xxxxxxx]
> Sent: 05 September 2001 13:42
> To: ukha_d
> Subject: RE: [OT] Petrol Pumps ....was [ukha_d] Views on X10
Addressing
>
>
> 4 hoses.
>
> Very advanced.
>
> Most pumps round our way only have 2 hoses on each of the 4 pumps.
>
> Usually....
>
> Unleaded + 4 Star
> Unleaded + 4 Star
> Unleaded + Unleaded  (Why 2 the same I DONT know!!)
> Unleaded + Diesel.
>
> As the driver of a Diesel vehicle it NEVER ceases to amaze me that the
> driver of a Petrol engined vehicle will pull onto the EMPTY forecourt
to
> fill up and stops at the ONLY pump that has Diesel to fill their car
with
> Unleaded. THEN....despite the fact that there is a vehicle behind
theirs
> with a Diesel engine knocking away... they go into the shop, spend
bloody
> ages choosing sweets and papers etc before a leisurely stroll
> back to their
> car.
>
> Of course.....it ALWAYS happens when I am already in a rush :-((
>
> I guess the fact that the people round here cant get to grips
> with filling a
> fuel tank explains why the local Homebase took so long to shift all
the
> goodies they had on the shelves.
>
> Keith
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Phil Harris [mailto:phillip.harris1@xxxxxxx]
> Sent: 05 September 2001 13:15
> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx> Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Views on X10 Addressing
>
>
> Very good point ... however having met many of my neighbours and
finding
> that most of them have just about got to grips with choosing the
> right hose
> from the four possibles on a garage forecourt then home automation is
> somewhat beyond them.
>
>
>
>
> For more information: http://www.automatedhome.co.uk
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Message: 18
   Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 16:17:28 +0100
   From: Jeff <ukha@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: New 1 Wire Devices from Dallas


Where is the best place to buy these - mail order would be preferable and
somewhere that sold a large range of them not like M****** one or two.

Does rapid sell any of them - I haven't ordered a catalogue yet as the new
one is out in October.

Jeff.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Keith Doxey" <ukha@xxxxxxx>
To: "ukha_d" <ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 3:24 PM
Subject: RE: [ukha_d] New 1 Wire Devices from Dallas


> OK.
>
> So some of the stuff has been out for a while.... but it was news to me.
>
> As to the disappearing devices.... the problem is that when an A/D
converter
> or a Temperature Sensor required a PCB of Eurocard proportions and dozens
of
> components to make it work, you couldnt loose one that easily. Now they
are
> little black blobs with a few legs or worse still a little surface mount
> speck of plastic, you cant see them on the bench, never mind finding them
> when you "misplace" them !!!
>
> Keith
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stuart Grimshaw [mailto:stuart@xxxxxxx]
> Sent: 05 September 2001 15:07
> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [ukha_d] New 1 Wire Devices from Dallas
>
>
> On Wednesday 05 September 2001 14:54 pm, Ian Oliver wrote:
> > In article <002901c13606$77a21860$5dfe9284@xxxxxxx>, Keith Doxey wrote:
> > > DS2408 8 channel PIO (programmable input/output) [FUTURE DEVICE]
> > >  64bit address and 1024 bits of OTP eprom
> > >  (ideal for 4 remote switches with LED's or a small Keypad etc for HA
> > > use)
> >
> > This is the only new one. I have digipots. 2-channel PIOs and AtoDs
> > already. All safe in little boxes waiting for me to have time to do
> > something. :-)
>
> I have the same, though I think there must be some 1-wire device gnomes
> somewhere because they are all missing, along with 10 DS18B20's
>
>
> --
>
> Stuart Grimshaw <stuart@xxxxxxx>
> -
> t:07976 625221
> f:0870 7060260
>
>
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Message: 19
   Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 16:28:35 +0100
   From: "Phil Harris" <phillip.harris1@xxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: OT - Digital Cameras


Just because you haven't won the lottery it doesn't stop you mentally
spending the winnings!

SWMBO has said that I can buy my Meridian if I can find another job ... I
fully intend to utilise that option when (if!) the time arrives.

Phil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: K. C. Li [mailto:li@xxxxxxx]
> Sent: 05 September 2001 13:44
> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx> Subject: RE: [ukha_d] OT - Digital Cameras
>
>
> On Wed, 5 Sep 2001, Phil Harris wrote:
>
> > Since buying the big Oly E10 I miss having a small point and
> squirt camera
> > that I could carry everywhere with me (which is what I used to
> do with the
> > previous digicams) and I intend getting an IXUS at some point.
>
> LOL. No change there then.
>
> Regards,
>
> Kwong Li
> li@xxxxxxx> Laser Business Systems Ltd.
> http://www.laser.com
>
>
>
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Message: 20
   Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 16:01:12 -0000
   From: patrickl@xxxxxxxSubject: Home control terminal

>From today's slashdot: a large screen phone which should ultimately
run a (shhh!) Linux variant once they port it. I could see one of
these being a nice supplement to EPOD style control of the house...

http://tuxscreen.net/

Patrick



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Message: 21
   Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 17:10:51 +0100 (BST)
   From: "K. C. Li" <li@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: IPAQ, CF & PCMCIA

On Wed, 5 Sep 2001, Mark McCall wrote:

> The way things are going a current iPAQ is gonna look very dated even
> by this time next year.  Sell to a mate Tim and buy the new one! :-)

We have four of them, all 32MB Flash ROM units, with two of them running
Linux and regularly being updated. Very nice toys.

Regards,

Kwong Li
li@xxxxxxxLaser Business Systems Ltd.
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Message: 22
   Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 17:12:16 +0100
   From: "Geraint Morris" <geraint@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [OT] Petrol Pumps ....was Views on X10 Addressing

Because the two different unl. nozzles will come from two seperate tanks.
Most likely they changed a tank from supergreen to unleaded at some point

G.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Phil Harris" <phillip.harris1@xxxxxxx>
To: <ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 2:02 PM
Subject: RE: [OT] Petrol Pumps ....was [ukha_d] Views on X10 Addressing


> We have a filling station close by with the "unleaded + unleaded" pumps
...
> I've never worked out why that is either!
>
> Phil
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Keith Doxey [mailto:ukha@xxxxxxx]
> > Sent: 05 September 2001 13:42
> > To: ukha_d
> > Subject: RE: [OT] Petrol Pumps ....was [ukha_d] Views on X10 Addressing
> >
> >
> > 4 hoses.
> >
> > Very advanced.
> >
> > Most pumps round our way only have 2 hoses on each of the 4 pumps.
> >
> > Usually....
> >
> > Unleaded + 4 Star
> > Unleaded + 4 Star
> > Unleaded + Unleaded  (Why 2 the same I DONT know!!)
> > Unleaded + Diesel.
> >
> > As the driver of a Diesel vehicle it NEVER ceases to amaze me that the
> > driver of a Petrol engined vehicle will pull onto the EMPTY forecourt to
> > fill up and stops at the ONLY pump that has Diesel to fill their car
with
> > Unleaded. THEN....despite the fact that there is a vehicle behind theirs
> > with a Diesel engine knocking away... they go into the shop, spend
bloody
> > ages choosing sweets and papers etc before a leisurely stroll
> > back to their
> > car.
> >
> > Of course.....it ALWAYS happens when I am already in a rush :-((
> >
> > I guess the fact that the people round here cant get to grips
> > with filling a
> > fuel tank explains why the local Homebase took so long to shift all the
> > goodies they had on the shelves.
> >
> > Keith
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Phil Harris [mailto:phillip.harris1@xxxxxxx]
> > Sent: 05 September 2001 13:15
> > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx> > Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Views on X10 Addressing
> >
> >
> > Very good point ... however having met many of my neighbours and finding
> > that most of them have just about got to grips with choosing the
> > right hose
> > from the four possibles on a garage forecourt then home automation is
> > somewhat beyond them.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > For more information: http://www.automatedhome.co.uk
> > Post message: ukha_d@xxxxxxx> > Subscribe:  ukha_d-subscribe@xxxxxxx> > Unsubscribe:  ukha_d-unsubscribe@xxxxxxx> > List owner:  ukha_d-owner@xxxxxxx> >
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> >
>
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Message: 23
   Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 17:24:33 +0100
   From: "Mark McCall" <mark@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: IPAQ, CF & PCMCIA

Take it there's no easy way to tell if you have the 32 meg ROM Li?

M.


  ----- Original Message -----
  From: K. C. Li
  To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx  Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 5:10 PM
  Subject: Re: [ukha_d] IPAQ, CF & PCMCIA


  On Wed, 5 Sep 2001, Mark McCall wrote:

  > The way things are going a current iPAQ is gonna look very dated even
  > by this time next year.  Sell to a mate Tim and buy the new one! :-)

  We have four of them, all 32MB Flash ROM units, with two of them running
  Linux and regularly being updated. Very nice toys.

  Regards,

  Kwong Li
  li@xxxxxxx  Laser Business Systems Ltd.
  http://www.laser.com


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Message: 24
   Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 17:28:12 +0100
   From: "Tracey Gardner" <tracey.gardner@xxxxxxx>
Subject: CAT 5 testers


I've just started pulling in my first CAT5 runs and thought that I'd
better get myself a cable tester to ensure that I don't end up with
any faulty cable pairs behind new plaster.

Anyway I plumped for the Maplin one that Steve Gordon bought, as like
Steve, Maplin was handy.

Unfortunately I didn't look at the tester before I bought it and I
naively thought that I could just connect bare cable ends to it!
It turns out that the cables have to have plugs on the end and
I just hadn't bargained for that.
So has anybody got any suggestions as to what's the best course
of action?
If I buy a crimping tool and some plugs, can I reuse the plugs?
The simplest solution that I've come up with so far would be to
buy two plugs and crimp a piece of cable onto each of them with 8
croc clips on the end of that or even a piece of chocolate block?

Is it possible/practical to get a tester that just takes bare
cable ends?

Tracey



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Message: 25
   Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 18:13:15 +0100
   From: "the-croft" <alan@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Views on X10 Addressing

I use the ones suggested by comfort. I have several times considered
changing everything to one house code as I have an unmodifed IR453 and it
seems a bit of a hassle to have to proxy the requests for housecode B thru
comfort.

Then again I don't really NEED to access the upstairs stuff from this, and I
could always buy the all housecode modification....

Alan Shields
alan@xxxxxxx


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