RE: Re: Bit the bullet...

["Phillip Harris" <phillip.harris1@xxxxxxx>]

I don't know ... it was a friend of mine who was working at NTL who was
trying out the service. He didn't like it either and I wanted to have a
play.

I think it was about £45 a month all in...

Phil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kenneth Watt [mailto:kennethwatt@xxxxxxx]
> Sent: 25 March 2001 10:34
> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Re: Bit the bullet...
>
>
> Phil,
>
> I've been thinking about this as a serious option, what is the
> skinny on the
> service?
>
> Ta
>
> K
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Phillip Harris [mailto:phillip.harris1@xxxxxxx]
> Sent: 25 March 2001 11:24
> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Re: Bit the bullet...
>
>
> I had already tried the satellite based option ... it was some time
ago so
> download speeds were OK but again, using a modem for upload was
> abysmal and
> was just too asymetric to work for me.
>
> Phil
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kenneth Watt [mailto:kennethwatt@xxxxxxx]
> > Sent: 25 March 2001 19:07
> > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> > Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Re: Bit the bullet...
> >
> >
> > Yeah, cable's what I want or DSL but at a reasonable price!
Telewest has
> > been pumping in cables around here like they were going out of
> fashion but
> > there's been no word on any services yet at all.
> >
> > If like you used to have a cable service for £20 a month then
> > that would be
> > worthwhile but for the moment I'm stuck with either PSTN, HH or
Sky!
> >
> > Sky's an option, using your sky dish as a receiver it promises
> > downloads at
> > up to 2Mpbs but one provider has suspended sales and I have
> heard quite a
> > few complaints about the speed. Whether that's just people
> being picky and
> > expecting too much or not I don't know as I do not know anyone
> > that is using
> > this service. You can now get this here:
> > http://www.europeonline.com/index_en.html
currently the cost is
> 262 Euros
> > for the pack allowing access and the necessary card (this
> includes the 50
> > Euro deposit on the card) and equates to £156 approx when
> converted. This
> > does not include your ISP or call charges, which are additional
> > and down to
> > you for the upstream connection.
> >
> > K.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Phillip Harris [mailto:phillip.harris1@xxxxxxx]
> > Sent: 24 March 2001 13:21
> > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> > Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Re: Bit the bullet...
> >
> >
> > It's six months according to the terms of what I agreed to ...
after six
> > months then I'll probably be looking at the cable companies for
> > telephony if
> > I'm not happy with HH or if they've got cablemodems working at
last.
> >
> > Phil
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: richard.lockyer@xxxxxxx
> > > [mailto:richard.lockyer@xxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: 24 March 2001 20:57
> > > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [ukha_d] Re: Bit the bullet...
> > >
> > >
> > > It is worth bearing in mind that you have to sign up for a
years
> > > contract with Home Highway, and they will charge you to
convert it
> > > back after that period.
> > >
> > > Richard
> > >
> > > --- In ukha_d@y..., "Phillip Harris"
<phillip.harris1@v...> wrote:
> > > > I completely agree with your dislike of HH from the
standpoint of
> > > cost and
> > > > coming from a house where I had a cablemodem before
then I am
> > > really feeling
> > > > the pinch however for me the deal was worthwhile.
> > > >
> > > > At the moment we have one phone line and I am tying it
up all the
> > > time. For
> > > > £39.99 (not £45.98) we get the second line (worth - say
- £10), I
> > > get my
> > > > 6pm - 8am and weekends internet access (worth £15) and
£7 worth of
> > > calls
> > > > lobbed in, this is in addition to our single line as
well.
> > > >
> > > > I considered the "all local calls inclusive"
package but I make few
> > > local
> > > > calls ... my family are 300 miles away and my partners
family are
> > > in the
> > > > next village and we see then every day. All our friends
are further
> > > out than
> > > > woul be counted as a local call and so this just wasn't
of use to
> > > us.
> > > >
> > > > When HH was £49.95 a month *PLUS* calls *PLUS* ISP
service then it
> > > was
> > > > horrendously overpriced ... this is actually quite a
reasonable
> > > deal now.
> > > > Sure ... if I hear from my mate at NTL that they've
managed to
> > > piggyback
> > > > digital services onto the crappy old Cable and Wireless
network and
> > > will be
> > > > offering cablemodem service for £20 a month then I'll
be beating a
> > > path to
> > > > their door but untill then (given that I have more
chance of
> > > winning Miss
> > > > World than getting ADSL which I also think is a bit
overpriced at
> > > the moment
> > > > compared with cablemodems) in the current round of
evalations then
> > > the HH
> > > > deal is best for me ... especially given that I don't
currently
> > > have the
> > > > luxury of the clean data streams that you get from your
analogue
> > > modem.
> > > > Remember it's a combination of the data rates and
dialup times that
> > > have
> > > > prompted me to make this choice in the first place.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers
> > > >
> > > > Phil
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Kenneth Watt [mailto:kennethwatt@xxxxxxx...]
> > > > > Sent: 24 March 2001 02:41
> > > > > To: ukha_d@y...
> > > > > Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Bit the bullet...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Phil,
> > > > >
> > > > > I have studied this in depth of late after BT
changed their
> > > pricing and it
> > > > > equates to this:
> > > > >
> > > > > BT Surftime package (evening an weekend access) =
£19.99 a month
> > > with ALL
> > > > > local calls (unlimited) under 60 minutes duration
included and
> > > your line
> > > > > rental.
> > > > >
> > > > > BT Surftime package (evening an weekend access) =
£14.99 a month
> > > with line
> > > > > rental and some discounts.
> > > > >
> > > > > Extra PSTN line = £9.59
> > > > >
> > > > > So a PSTN x2 inclusive of all local calls off peak
and weekend as
> > > well as
> > > > > net access would cost £29.58 per month as opposed
to £45.98 a
> > > month for a
> > > > > similar package using HH and that's without the
local unlimited
> > > calls.
> > > > >
> > > > > In other words HH is £48.00 a quarter more
expensive than
> > > > > standard lines and
> > > > > I think that is too expensive for what it is! Yes
it does have
> > > advantages
> > > > > and is better than two standard lines, but BT
charge £39.99 a
> > > month, for
> > > > > that kind of money I want DSL not some muffed up
half-way-house
> > > > > between true
> > > > > ISDN and a standard line. If BT want an extra £200
a year out of
> > > > > me they are
> > > > > gonna have to do better than HH.
> > > > >
> > > > > I will miss HH for convenience, but I won't miss
the bill!
> > > > >
> > > > > K.
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Phil Harris [mailto:phillip.harris1@xxxxxxx...]
> > > > > Sent: 23 March 2001 02:03
> > > > > To: ukha_d@y...
> > > > > Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Bit the bullet...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Agreed ... if we eventually get Cablemodems or
ADSL in my area
> > > > > then I'll be
> > > > > there waving my chequebook but given that I
currently only have
> > > > > one analogue
> > > > > line in at home then this isn't a bad deal at all
for me.
> > > > >
> > > > > £40 a month gets me HomeHighway (effectively two
phonelines) plus
> > > > > 6pm to 8am
> > > > > weekday and all weekend internet access (which was
going to cost
> > > me £15 a
> > > > > month via BT for a modem based service). There's a
call allowance
> > > included
> > > > > and I won't be tying on the only phone line into
the house all
> > > > > weekend, plus
> > > > > of course the quick dialup times are a real draw
given that I
> > > can't get an
> > > > > "always on" service yet. I have been
finding that my modem takes
> > > about 1.5
> > > > > minutes to dial up and log on and then I get
between 1.7 and
> > > 2kbytes a
> > > > > second transfer rates. HH isn't ideal but it's the
best solution
> > > > > I can find
> > > > > at the moment.
> > > > >
> > > > > Phil
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Mark McCall [mailto:mark@xxxxxxx...]
> > > > > > Sent: 23 March 2001 09:02
> > > > > > To: ukha_d@y...
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Bit the bullet...
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > A router would be nice, (in fact I have
an Ascend Pipeline
> > > > > > kicking around
> > > > > > if
> > > > > > > I ever get it working!) because I
wouldnt have to have a
> > > > > > particular PC
> > > > > > > turned on, but using ICS does give you
the ability to use
> > > > > > <Mark - insert
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > name of that dialler program here
please!> to automate
> > > dialups to
> > > > > > different
> > > > > > > numbers at different times.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dialer 2000?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have to add after the negative post that
personally I LOVE
> > > > > > HH.  Of course
> > > > > > I would prefer broadband access but where I
live it's not an
> > > > > > option.  Like
> > > > > > Keith I was lucky to get connections in the
mid 40s.  HH
> > > > > > gives me over 7K/s
> > > > > > on most downloads.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Another big plus over a modem is the speed of
connection,
> > > > > > especially if you
> > > > > > need multiple re-dials when your ISP is busy.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > M.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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