Re: Re: OT: New Speed Camera's

["Campbell Macdonald" <campbell@xxxxxxx>]

I am glad.... :-).

with super systems on the M11 etc. the less cameras the better. I knew
about
the Glasgow M8 cam but rarely do much more than 70 there (sorry sir I know
it is a 50, but I was going downhill and freewheeling).

campbell with 3 points (I keep telling you to slow down ...swmbo)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan James" <daniel@xxxxxxx>
To: <ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 9:03 AM
Subject: [ukha_d] Re: OT: New Speed Camera's


> Ahh this is doing the rounds then, I have seen this on ordinary
> email, the "blue cameras" it refers to are owned and
operated by
> Trafficmaster, nothing to do with the police at all!! and most of
> them have been there for over 5 years now.... The do detect car
> speed, but only to allow updates to trafficmaster system, yeap a hoax
> mail indeed.
>
> Regards
>
> Daniel
>
> --- In ukha_d@y..., Keith Doxey <ukha@d...> wrote:
> > Likewise.
> >
> > We have a demo system at work which reads numberplates as people
> drive in
> > the main gate to the site as <5mph. It doesnt always read it
right
> even with
> > good lighting.
> >
> > To read a number plate at 60+mph would need some pretty serious
CPU
> time.
> >
> > "Upto 500 metres apart".... at 60mph this is about 16
seconds
> maximum for
> > the calculation to be made. At the same time the system would
> probably have
> > another 30 vehicles it was trying to track under the cameras.
> >
> > Radar speed detection and Still frame analasis of a speeding
> vehicle would
> > be MUCH simpler and the system would only deal with speeding
> vehicles rather
> > than looking at every vehicle as would be the case with what is
> described
> > below.
> >
> > My opinion is "Urban Myth" or attempt to clog email
systems just
> like virus
> > hoaxes.
> >
> > Keith
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Paul Gordon [mailto:paul_gordon@xxxxxxx...]
> > Sent: 15 June 2001 08:04
> > To: ukha_d@y...
> > Subject: Re: [ukha_d] OT: New Speed Camera's
> >
> >
> > Hmmm... I am *EXTREMELY* sceptical about this...
> >
> > I have an inbuilt alarm mechanism that triggers whenever I see an
> email with
> > the words "Please forward this mail to as many people as
possible"
> >
> > It's just gone *DING*
> >
> > It all sounds very convincing, BUT, as someone said, there has
been
> no
> > mention of this in the national press, on TV, or on Radio, there
is
> not a
> > single word mentioned about this on either the AA's or RAC's
> websites, (The
> > RAC mentions the introduction of a "hi-tech" speed
camera, but that
> is NOT
> > this system - it is a single camera on the M11 about 5 minutes
from
> where I
> > live)
> >
> > Basically nothing is being said about this by any
"reputable"
> source - (no
> > disrespect intended to your mates in the force...)
> >
> > You mention that it is being debated in parliament, do you know
in
> which
> > House? and do you know as part of which bill? - I've just had a
> quick scan
> > of Hansard and can find (thus far) no mention of such a debate..
> > >From what I can see, there is currently only 1 bill going
through
> that
> > deals
> > with speed cameras, the "Vehicles (Crime) Bill"
> >
> > I've got some contacts who have access to some Govt. ministers
and
> some V.
> > senior civil servants, I will ask them if they have see if they
can
> sniff
> > out any info about this too.
> >
> > Personally, I am still inclined to treat this as a hoax - it
looks
> to me
> > like virus -mail!
> >
> > Paul G.
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: "Campbell Macdonald" <campbell@c...>
> > >Reply-To: ukha_d@y...
> > >To: <ukha_d@y...>
> > >Subject: Re: [ukha_d] OT: New Speed Camera's
> > >Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 01:13:51 +0100
> > >
> > >Additional info..
> > >We have just received this from mates in the police.
> > >Be aware of the new speed cameras which are being
> > >erected the complete length of the 'A' and 'M Roads.
> > >They are recognised by tall blue coloured poles and a
> > >small aerial pole next to it. We may have a possible
> > >stay of execution, due to the privacy law up-holding
> > >these units from being switched on. At the moment it
> > >is being debated within Parliament.
> > >SPEEDCHECK SVVD or SPECS went on-line last weekend on
> > >the M1, netting 4,300 offenders in a single day. The
> > >system does not use instantaneous speed like the
> > >cameras we're all familiar with, instead measuring the
> > >average speed of every vehicle over a distance of
> > >about a mile.
> > >How? By reading your license plates and matching them
> > >up camera -to-camera. Kent and Leicestershire police
> > >are so impressed with it that systems are being
> > >erected in their enforcement areas too. This is a new
> > >system that has now entered service after successful
> > >trials on the M1 and M20 in the UK.
> > >SPEEDCHECK SVDD (Sureway Video Detection Device) is a
> > >system similar in concept to the GATSO, but with a new
> > >twist. SVDD deploys cameras at either end of a
> > >measured baseline, (up to 500 metres) to monitor
> > >vehicles 24 hours a day. Using machine vision,
> > >vehicle number plates are read, and the precise time
> > >of each observation recorded and as a vehicle passes
> > >the second camera, the number plate records are
> > >matched, and an average speed for the vehicle is
> > >calculated. If this is above the trigger speed, then
> > >the vehicle's identification is recorded along with
> > >it's speed. It is also flashed up on a huge
> > >illuminated sign further down the road to embarrass
> > >the driver into slowing down. When triggered, the
> > >detection technology used in these cameras
> > >automatically records the date, precise time, location
> > >and speed of the offending vehicle, along with a
> > >detailed image of the front of the vehicle, which
> > >clearly records the number plate, make, model, who is
> > >driving and colour of the vehicle.
> > >There's five overriding reasons for the habitual
> > >speeder to be afraid of this system. Or may be there
> > >could be the implication of a sixth reason, What if
> > >s/he is not your fulltime other half!
> > >1. It works 24 hours a day.
> > >2. Needs no film!
> > >3. Uses no flash!
> > >4. Uses no radar!...So, bad luck all
> > >those of you who think that radar detectors work.
> > >5. It's been proven to be over 99%
> > >accurate in almost all weather conditions.
> > >It doesn't do spot-speed checking. A GATSO can only
> > >check the speed of a vehicle within a certain range,
> > >so the tactic most drivers use now is to slow down for
> > >the camera and then speed up again once past it.
> > >SPEEDCHECK measures average speed over a known
> > >distance. So if you do 60mph under each camera and
> > >then speed up to 80 mph in between, your average speed
> > >is likely to be near 70mph - 10 over the limit
> > >imposed, you're nicked. SVDD say this means that the
> > >system can impose a far smoother flow of traffic
> > >eliminating slow-fast driving that the GATSO cameras
> > >provoke. Because it's
> > >automated, the system is entirely self-sufficient.
> > >It's hooked up to the DVLA computers, and can
> > >automatically process the fines and send out notices
> > >in the post.
> > >It's Big Brother. Don't believe for a moment that this
> > >technology will only be used to catch speeders. It can
> > >be used to keep track of where every single car in the
> > >country is at any given moment in time once the
> > >network of these things becomes broad enough. Warning
> > >to M25 Motorists. If you are a driver then this is
> > >important! Even if you aren't, you know people who
> > >are, so it is still important!
> > >Please pass this one on to as many people as you can.
> > >There are 60 new cameras that start operating on the
> > >M25 on Monday 14 June 2001. These are between the A3
> > >and M40. They are digital and linked direct to
> > >computer, use no film or flashgun. They can deal with
> > >60,000 tickets EVERY HOUR. The cameras are also
> > >(apparently) linked and can workout your average speed
> > >between them. So, if you speed up between them and
> > >slow down as you approach them, if your average speed
> > >is over the "legal limit + No %" threshold you may
> > >well get a ticket.
> > >
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Stuart Grimshaw" <stuart@s...>
> > >To: "UKHA List" <ukha_d@y...>
> > >Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 12:06 AM
> > >Subject: [ukha_d] OT: New Speed Camera's
> > >
> > >
> > > > I just received an email about those new speed camera's
going
> live
> > > > nationally, anyone else heard such a rumor? I would
have
> thought it was
> > >big
> > > > news.
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