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RE: Re: Video Distribution


  • To: <ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
  • Subject: RE: Re: Video Distribution
  • From: "Phil Harris" <phillip.harris1@xxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 21:50:29 +0100
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I don't get this at all ... as soon as I unhook my external aerial I get
nothing of the external channels bleeding through.

Now, maybe I wasn't clear ... I was meaning that I would be using several
OD
or $ky boxes around the house and not using any terrestrial channels at all
... then all you need to d  is make sure any modulated channels of CCTV
don't interfere. I no longer consider RF as any way t  send TV programs
around the house.


-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Griffiths [mailto:mike@xxxxxxx]
Sent: 01 July 2001 21:39
To: 'ukha_d@xxxxxxx'
Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Re: Video Distribution


Not really Phil

You will still get the existing terrestrial channels breaking through

You still should use the excellent prog on Mark’s site

http://www.automatedhome.co.uk/downloads/channel.zip

having entered in the local channels

http://www.bbc.co.uk/info/reception/tvpb/index.shtml



Mike



Sent from Home



-----Original Message-----
From: Phil Harris [mailto:phillip.harris1@xxxxxxx]
Sent: Sun 01 Jul 01 21:00
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Re: Video Distribution




For CCTV I would just modulate and distribute by RF ... Since I would be
using OnDigital or $ky Digital for TV channels then you can effectively
use
the entire RF bandwidth and just tune in channels on your TV for each
different camera.

Phil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: richard.lockyer@xxxxxxx
> [mailto:richard.lockyer@xxxxxxx]
> Sent: 01 July 2001 20:55
> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> Subject: [ukha_d] Re: Video Distribution
>
>
> Phil,
>
> Good points, I would als  add CCTV t  the list of distributed
> services, but what box(es) should we use to d  the splitting /
> combining /amplification?
>
> Richard
> --- In ukha_d@y..., "Phil Harris"
<phillip.harris1@v...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Ian,
> >
> > As you well know from your various visits I'm looking at d ing
this
> sort of
> > stuff too (and already implementing it using Keiths KAT5's).
> >
> > I tend to look at this kind of thing from a different
> perspective ... the
> > way I look at it is "OK ... it would be nice to pipe the VCR
round
> the house
> > but will it be useable?" The reason for this is a VCR is a
finite
> > entertainment sourc( - just as a single disc DVD player is - and
so
> you have
> > t  stick a tape in there to watch and then run upstairs to watch
> it. If you
> > want to watch a different tape then you have t  come back
> downstairs and
> > swap out the tapes.
> >
> > The devices I see as usefull for distribution aroond the home
would
> be
> > pretty much anything that has a "library" or multi-c
ntent facility
> such as
> > satellite, On Digital boxes, DVD jukeboxes etc. For single play
DVD
> players
> > I woud tend to look at this and say "Well, for £150 I can
get a
> standalone
> > player which will give me extra flexibility" ... the same
applies
> to VCRs
> > where a perfectly reasonable player can be had for about £90.
> >
> > Phil
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Ian Bird [mailto:I.Bird@xxxxxxx...]
> > > Sent: 01 July 2001 08:41
> > > To: ukha_d@y...
> > > Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Video Distribution
> > >
> > >
> > > I was thinking of d ing the same s  would be interested in
your
> > > experiences.
> > > I have an IDTV, DVD and video downstairs and would like to
push
> all this
> > > round the rest of the house.
> > >
> > > Ian
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: richard.lockyer@c...
> > > [mailto:richard.lockyer@xxxxxxx...]
> > > Sent: 01 July 2001 00:07
> > > To: ukha_d@y...
> > > Subject: [ukha_d] Video Distribution
> > >
> > >
> > > I currently use a three way splitter / amplifer to
distribute
> video
> > > around the house. I am thinking about upgrading to a Global
> > > communications Loftbox.  Can anyone recommend this or is
there a
> > > better solution?
> > >
> > > Als , Is it possible t  connect more than one KAT 5 receiver
to a
> > > transmitter?
> > >
> > > Richard
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ____________________________________
> > > Automated Home UK
> > > http://www.automatedhome.co.uk
> > > ____________________________________
> > >
> > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject t
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ____________________________________
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> > > http://www.automatedhome.co.uk
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> > >
> > >
>
>
>
>
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RE: [ukha_d] Re: Video=20
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CCTV I would just modulate and distribute by RF ... Since I would=20
be</TT><BR><TT>using OnDigital or $ky Digital for TV
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n=20
effectively use</TT><BR><TT>the entire RF bandwidth and
just tune in chan=
nels=20
on your TV for each</TT><BR><TT>different=20
camera.</TT><BR><BR><TT>Phil</TT><BR><BR><TT>&gt;
-----Original=20
Message-----</TT><BR><TT>&gt; From:=20
richard.lockyer@xxxxxxx</TT><BR><TT>&gt;=20
[mailto:richard.lockyer@xxxxxxx]</TT><BR><TT>&gt;
Sent: 01 July=
2001=20
20:55</TT><BR><TT>&gt; To:
ukha_d@xxxxxxx</TT><BR><TT>&gt; Subjec=
t:=20
[ukha_d] Re: Video=20
Distribution</TT><BR><TT>&gt;</TT><BR><TT>&gt;</TT><BR><TT>&gt;=20
Phil,</TT><BR><TT>&gt;</TT><BR><TT>&gt;
Good points, I would als  add CCT=
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the list of distributed</TT><BR><TT>&gt; services,
but what box(es) shoul=
d we=20
use to d  the splitting /</TT><BR><TT>&gt;
combining=20
/amplification?</TT><BR><TT>&gt;</TT><BR><TT>&gt;
Richard</TT><BR><TT>&gt=
; ---=20
In ukha_d@y..., "Phil Harris"
&lt;phillip.harris1@v...&gt;=20
wrote:</TT><BR><TT>&gt;
&gt;</TT><BR><TT>&gt; &gt; Hi
Ian,</TT><BR><TT>&g=
t;=20
&gt;</TT><BR><TT>&gt; &gt; As you well know
from your various visits I'm=
=20
looking at d ing this</TT><BR><TT>&gt; sort
of</TT><BR><TT>&gt; &gt; stuf=
f too=20
(and already implementing it using Keiths
KAT5's).</TT><BR><TT>&gt;=20
&gt;</TT><BR><TT>&gt; &gt; I tend to look at
this kind of thing from a=20
different</TT><BR><TT>&gt; perspective ...
the</TT><BR><TT>&gt; &gt; way =
I=20
look at it is "OK ... it would be nice to pipe the VCR
round</TT><BR><TT>=
&gt;=20
the house</TT><BR><TT>&gt; &gt; but will it be
useable?" The reason for t=
his=20
is a VCR is a finite</TT><BR><TT>&gt; &gt;
entertainment sourc( - just as=
a=20
single disc DVD player is - and so</TT><BR><TT>&gt;
you have</TT><BR><TT>=
&gt;=20
&gt; t  stick a tape in there to watch and then run upstairs to=20
watch</TT><BR><TT>&gt; it. If
you</TT><BR><TT>&gt; &gt; want to watch a=20
different tape then you have t  come
back</TT><BR><TT>&gt; downstairs=20
and</TT><BR><TT>&gt; &gt; swap out the
tapes.</TT><BR><TT>&gt;=20
&gt;</TT><BR><TT>&gt; &gt; The devices I see
as usefull for distribution=
=20
aroond the home would</TT><BR><TT>&gt;
be</TT><BR><TT>&gt; &gt; pretty mu=
ch=20
anything that has a "library" or multi-c ntent
facility</TT><BR><TT>&gt; =
such=20
as</TT><BR><TT>&gt; &gt; satellite, On Digital
boxes, DVD jukeboxes etc. =
For=20
single play DVD</TT><BR><TT>&gt;
players</TT><BR><TT>&gt; &gt; I woud ten=
d to=20
look at this and say "Well, for =A3150 I can get
a</TT><BR><TT>&gt;=20
standalone</TT><BR><TT>&gt; &gt; player which
will give me extra flexibil=
ity"=20
... the same applies</TT><BR><TT>&gt; to
VCRs</TT><BR><TT>&gt; &gt; where=
a=20
perfectly reasonable player can be had for about
=A390.</TT><BR><TT>&gt;=
=20
&gt;</TT><BR><TT>&gt; &gt;
Phil</TT><BR><TT>&gt;
&gt;</TT><BR><TT>&gt; &g=
t;=20
&gt; -----Original Message-----</TT><BR><TT>&gt;
&gt; &gt; From: Ian Bird=
=20
[mailto:I.Bird@xxxxxxx...]</TT><BR><TT>&gt;
&gt; &gt; Sent: 01 July 2001=20
08:41</TT><BR><TT>&gt; &gt; &gt; To:
ukha_d@y...</TT><BR><TT>&gt; &gt; &g=
t;=20
Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Video
Distribution</TT><BR><TT>&gt; &gt;=20
&gt;</TT><BR><TT>&gt; &gt;
&gt;</TT><BR><TT>&gt; &gt; &gt; I was
thinking=
of=20
d ing the same s  would be interested in
your</TT><BR><TT>&gt; &gt; &gt;=
=20
experiences.</TT><BR><TT>&gt; &gt; &gt; I
have an IDTV, DVD and video=20
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