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Re: Energy use in "off mode" with X10 modules and LED light bulbs
- Subject: Re: Energy use in "off mode" with X10 modules and LED light bulbs
- From: drrnorth@xxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2019 04:29:19 -0700 (PDT)
- Newsgroups: comp.home.automation
- References: <42440b87-e4f4-40e8-8c1d-b9e8ae9a91db@googlegroups.com>
Here's an easy fix for LED lamp glow (and perhaps flicker) with X10 modules=
(AM466 appliance modules in particular). Recently I replaced several ou=
tdoor halogen floodlights with LED units and was was surprised to see that =
they remained ON (faintly but definitely) even when switched off. I had as=
sumed that the appliance modules, which click audibly when switched on or o=
ff and which have no dimming function, were simple relays . . . but it tur=
ns out that, like the dimmable lamp modules, they emit a small current. Th=
is doesn't make incandescent or halogen bulbs glow, but it does so with the=
efficient LED's.
X10 websites show many schemes for modifying the AM466 to defeat this; it r=
elates to "local control" current, and it involves clipping resistor(s) and=
/or diodes. Unfortunately, there are many different makes and models of t=
he unit with different circuit board layouts, and the online plans don't di=
stinguish among them. =20
Fortunately, along the way, I saw mention of hooking a small load such as a=
night light in parallel with an LED lamp to draw away current and eliminat=
e the glow. This would of course just replace one glow with another, albei=
t the night lights could be tucked away in the cabinet with my X10 modules.=
Then I saw mention of using a small AC adapter, e.g. a phone charger, ty=
pically 1W or less, as the load. One simply plugs a splitter/adapter into =
the X10 module and then plugs in the LED lamp and the dummy load in paralle=
l.
I have a whole collection of AC power supplies in different sizes; I tried =
a couple of the 5V units, which are most plentiful, and mirabile dictu no m=
ore glow! I ordered several inexpensive USB phone chargers, and alas these=
didn't solve the problem; they replaced the steady glow with an intermitte=
nt glow, flickering about 1/sec. Perhaps these use solid state switching r=
ather than good, old fashioned transformers . . . In any event, I've gone=
back to the older power supplies, and these work very nicely. It's a simp=
le plug-and-play solution.
I wonder what principles are involved here, and what dummy load (resistive,=
inductive, etc.) would be ideal (lowest power, lowest cost)? Would a sim=
ilar approach work for dimmer modules? I have some dimmer circuits with mu=
ltiple lamps which will accept LED's as long as one halogen bulb (resistive=
load) remains. In a dimmer circuit with a single lamp, I wonder what loa=
d might be plugged into a socket adapter, in parallel with the lamp?
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