Re: R.I.P. Robert L. Bass

[JoeRaisin <joeraisin2001@xxxxxxxxx>]

On 9/21/2010 11:49 PM, Petem wrote:
>
> "JoeRaisin" <joeraisin2001@xxxxxxxxx> a écrit dans le message de groupe
> de discussion : i7bdnc$j0r$2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> On 9/20/2010 11:57 PM, Petem wrote:
>>>
>>> "Spellcheck Patrol" <alarminstall@xxxxxxx> a écrit dans le message de
>>> groupe de discussion :
>>> 50e313e7-653b-4e24-9175-549695fe5d68@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> On Sep 20, 8:20 pm, mleuck <m.le...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>> On Sep 20, 5:08 pm, tourman <robercampb...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> > On Sep 20, 5:51 pm, Spellcheck Patrol <alarminst...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > > On Sep 20, 4:17 pm, "petem" <petem...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > > > "Doug" <n...@xxxxxxxx> a écrit dans le message de groupe de > >
>>>>> > discussion :
>>>>> > > > w_Klo.51235$pR1.34...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>
>>>>> > > > > "Petem" <petem...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>>> > > > >news:i76l3m$hu6$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>
>>>>> > > > >> "mleuck" <m.le...@xxxxxxxxx> a écrit dans le message de
>>>>> groupe > > > >> de
>>>>> > > > >> discussion :
>>>>> > > > >>
>>>>> 86c57b5c-db5f-429d-aa90-5a0177d32...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> > > > >>> On Sep 16, 6:25 pm, G. Morgan <usenet_ab...@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> > > > >>>> Sadly, Robert passed away this past Sunday.
>>>>>
>>>>> > > > >>>> Rest in peace Robert.
>>>>>
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> >>>>http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/heraldtribune/obituary.aspx?n=robert...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> > > > >>> I'll post my impressions
>>>>>
>>>>> > > > >>> It's too bad he passed away however his legacy here is
>>>>> spending > > > >>> most
>>>>> > > > >>> of the time driving people away which he did very well, he
>>>>> > > > >>> slammed the
>>>>> > > > >>> entire security industry to push product and in a few cases
>>>>> > > > >>> tried to
>>>>> > > > >>> go real-life on those he disagreed with (including me). Had
>>>>> he > > > >>> been
>>>>> > > > >>> civil providing security advice and not back stab everyone
>>>>> he > > > >>> WOULD be
>>>>> > > > >>> missed.
>>>>>
>>>>> > > > >>> You may all resume your gushing praises
>>>>>
>>>>> > > > >> Damn I love to read from you !! ;-)))))
>>>>>
>>>>> > > > > Pete, I think he meant gushing praise for RLB, not for
>>>>> himself.
>>>>>
>>>>> > > > I know and I love the fact that he didnt fell for this remorse
>>>>> > > > BS... <
>>>>>
>>>>> > > You are an absolute douche and oxygen thief.
>>>>> > > Look at you clinging to Mark's post in hopes he will share the
>>>>> sick
>>>>> > > pleasure you found in the passing of another person.
>>>>> > > You sad twit has it occurred to you that you are viewed as an > >
>>>>> ignorant
>>>>> > > troll?
>>>>> > > You know Pete you are one of the few people I have ever
>>>>> encountered
>>>>> > > online that I seriously would take joy breaking a foot up in
>>>>> their > > ass
>>>>> > > if not for fear that I would clip your skull in the process
>>>>> causing
>>>>> > > you further brain damage.
>>>>>
>>>>> > RHC: "Bingo".... Tom, you nailed that one right !!
>>>>>
>>>>> Not really, Tom would likely talk Petem to death first <
>>>>
>>>> Believe what you want.
>>>>
>>>>> and Petem is
>>>>> just saying what a lot of people were thinking, <
>>>>
>>>> Petem is happy Robert passed away. Are you saying a lot of people here
>>>> are happy that he died? I know your thoughts on the matter. You
>>>> expressed long ago that Robert should just die and get it over with
>>>> (your words not mine).
>>>>
>>>>> unlike a lot of people
>>>>> here he's not afraid to say it <
>>>>
>>>> Well since you know so much why not share who is afraid to express joy
>>>> in public over Robert's death?
>>>> You're talking out of your ass again, Mark.
>>>> You, Pete, and some sock puppet have made no bones about wanting
>>>> Robert's death expedited. Pete is a douchebag. The sockpuppet is what
>>>> it is. What does that say about you when you wished a quicker death
>>>> than what really took place? You wanted a man to die because he
>>>> annoyed you via the internet. How sad is that?
>>>
>>> How sad someone was so bad at communicating with others that some wished
>>> him to die quicker...
>>>
>>> who could be so low... so damn bad and such a scum.. he got what he
>>> deserve and thats it..
>>>
>>>
>>
>> If you mean that he went with the peace and comfort that comes from
>> extending the olive branch, then, I guess, you are right.
>>
>> If you simply mean death, well, isn't that what we are all destined for?
>
> No he die with the warm feeling that he got most of you.. I am shure
> that he died with a big smile thinking how a few here would post good
> things about him while he didnt even think any one here was worth more
> then a chimp..

And that's why you do not, and never will, understand.

You still think that by refusing his gesture you somehow hurt him.

Your response indicates that you have what is called an external locus
of control.  How others view you is more important than how you view
yourself.  Since that is your frame of reference, you tend to believe
everyone sees life that way - so you, in turn, believe that how you view
someone is more important than how they view themselves.

I would seem that Robert, based upon his participation in this
newsgroup, had an internal locus of control (the opposite of that
described above).

When you apologize to someone, you hope to be forgiven and if your
apology is rejected it compounds your internal misery.  Of course I am
only surmising here, but it is based upon your reaction to Roberts
apology.  What you don't understand is that the ultimate peace one can
achieve is self-forgiveness.

Self-forgiveness does not depend upon that reactions of others.
Self-forgiveness comes from sincerity.  When someone is sincerely sorry
for something they have done all they can really do is offer a sincere
apology.  Certainly there could amends made, financial or otherwise if
appropriate and possible, but in the case we are discussing in this
thread there wasn't much else that could be done.

How folks respond to that apology is really a moot point.  If the
apology is not sincere, the person making that apology knows it and it
would not matter if everyone began singing their highest praises - no
peace or comfort would be achieved since they would know it was based
upon false premise.

So I chose to accept Robert's declaration at face value, since it
mattered not a whit to me whether or not he was sincere.  That is for
his own conscience.

You say we were fooled and we are suckers - at what cost?  It wasn't as
if he was asking for money.  On the other hand, your fear of being
"fooled" or "suckered" in such a benign circumstance says quite a bit
about you.

Robert may be gone, but he lives rent free in your head...