Re: d-day

["John J. Bengii" <nobody@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Welcome to the 80s.

It's not going to fly and is a well known troll.


"Neil Cherry" <njc@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:slrnfnnl74.apn.njc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> On Tue, 1 Jan 2008 20:48:56 -0500, John J. Bengii wrote:
>> You delinked each person's comments with their headers and your
>> message is hard to associate  now.
>
> Actually not, seems you don't know how to associate the poster's
> header with the conversation level (see below).
>
>> Bottom posting was popular before threading browsers were developed
>> in the 80s.
>
> And MTV's 'Jackass' is popular now, you're point is?
>
> Please remember that Microsoft is not a standard and something new
> doesn't make it better. In fact it's usually an excuse for
> laziness. This is a huge problem in business where everyone simply
> adds to the top of the stack even when it as simple as adding
> 'lols'. Microsoft's Outlook and Express are broken. My suggestion is
> to get a better product.
>
>> I don't want all the attachments before the text I want to read.
>
> Attachments? I think you mean quoted text, anyway ...
>
> Then how do you follow the conversation especially when you need to
> respond to specific points? Most folks I know read top down, not
> bottom up.
>
>> Most people can read either format, provided the etxt is trimmed or
>> not bottom posted after much nesting ...
>
> Bottom posting has been the standard for a long time (before the
> Internet). When one writes a letter or document and quotes a text
> they
> don't put the quote after the comment. Of course that is unless
> you're
> Microsoft. When responding to more than one point top posting is
> tedious and does make the conversation more difficult to deal with.
> Take this message for example, had I simply top posted none of this
> would be in a format that makes sense. You'd rather make the
> exception
> the norm and forget about having a proper conversation.
>
> BTW, it would be good to follow you're own advise and trim. My sig
> in
> the quoted message is unnecessary.
>
>>                                  ... but some have reading
>> disabilities.
>
> Since I don't know how a person with reading disabilities reads
> these
> message I must claim ignorance. But if the reader reads the start of
> the message and then follows down to the quoted text wouldn't the
> conversation be backwards? If the reader skips the quoted text then
> a
> bottom posted message would still just read the unquoted portion of
> the message. sounds like a straw man argument to me.
>
>> Look at the mess you have made below.
>
> Below is a logical conversation. For example this header:
>
>>> On Tue, 1 Jan 2008 13:40:55 -0500, John J. Bengii wrote:
>
> matches this section:
>
>>>> Until the inmternal gases are warmed up the bulb is lucky to show
>>>> any light at all. Electronic ballasts have helped this problem a
>>>> lot.
>
> Note that your comments are at one level higher than your associate
> header. I used your comments as an example as you're more likely to
> remember them.
>
>> ----------------------------------
>> "Neil Cherry" <njc@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:slrnfnlfrg.507.njc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> On Tue, 1 Jan 2008 13:40:55 -0500, John J. Bengii wrote:
>>>> "Neil Cherry" <njc@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 12:09:53 +0100, Ghost wrote:
>>>>>> Why not good in cold climates?
>
> Ghost wrote that.
>
>>>>> I can't comment the other comments but on the issue of cold I
>>>>> can.  Basically the CFL bulb fails to fully light instead it
>>>>> just
>>>>> dimly flickers. One of my neighbors has a CFL on their front
>>>>> porch and if the temperatures are less than about 40F then the
>>>>> bulb just flickers all night long. During the spring/summer and
>>>>> part of the fall months it works great.
>
> I wrote that.
>
>>>> Until the inmternal gases are warmed up the bulb is lucky to show
>>>> any light at all. Electronic ballasts have helped this problem a
>>>> lot.
>
> You wrote that.
>
>>> First lets fix the order of the messages ... In case you need to
>>> know
>>> why:
>>>
>>> A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read
>>>    text.
>>> Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
>>> A: Top-posting.
>>> Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style
>>>
>>> Now on to my comments on the CFL ... My neighbor's CFL never gets
>>> past dimly flicking on cold days. It's not really surprising as
>>> the
>>> area where it's located get the full effects of the wind and the
>>> winter night time temperatures routinely drop below 30F.
>
> I wrote that
>
>>> --
>>> Linux Home Automation ...
>
> That part is unnecessary to quote.
>
> --
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