Re: EIB / Gira Information Needed

[nobody@xxxxxxxxxxxx (Dave Houston)]

I think EIB has been subsumed into KNX. Try...

     http://www.konnex.org

Have you tried starting at the source?

     http://www.gira.com

Bugga <big_bugga9@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>Greetings,
>
>This is my first post in this group, I'll try to be as brief as
>possible.
>
>We are AV integrators here in Ca... we have come accross a few whole-
>house EIB systems being installed by a startup company run by a couple
>guys from Germany. They use Gira products exclusively and focus mainly
>on lighting control.
>
>This is our situation...
>
>Our installations consist of mainly high-end Crestron systems. The
>challenge we are facing is integrating the lighting control with the
>Crestron processor, essentially marrying the two platforms so the
>Client can enjoy whole-house control from installed interfaces and
>remotes.
>
>We have sat in on numeous meetings with these guys installing the Gira
>equipment, I have repeatedly asked for clarification on how to control
>their gear. All we get is empty hype with no real content-- these guys
>I believe do not actually know the answers. They bring a programmer in
>from Germany to set up their installations. We have talked with the
>programmer but the cultural and language barriers make it difficult to
>absorb anything useful.
>
>I know we can use RS232, IR and ethernet protocols to communicate with
>the EIB stuff, however what we need is the code and code/logic
>structure, basically some sort of tutorial to get us moving in the
>right direction. I would like to find a download (English) of the
>programming software to at least familliarize myself with the
>programming logic.
>
>We aren't looking to mess with the Gira guys, simply to help our
>Clients. Virtually ALL of the Clients that have contracted with these
>Gira guys have been left with long punchlists of problems and systems
>nobody can program except. One Client has a new 9000 sq ft home
>utilizing Gira lighting/HVAC/cameras/intercoms/bio-entry/etc. and
>nothing but the lighting works. We installed the AV system but cannot
>help him with the Gira stuff because we cannot get answers. His is
>preparing a lawsuit as a result of this disaster.
>
>My questions here are,
>
>Where can we find a good tutorial to help us understand the EIB
>platform?
>
>where do we start as far as getting information on the workings of
>this Gira equipment?
>
>Where can we get the programming info we need to control it with
>Crestron (or PC)?
>
>Where can we download an English Gira catalog for product
>descriptions?
>
>All this I would say is vital for us (and our Clients) at this point.
>Any help here would be fantastic. We would certainly reciprocate in
>any way we can.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Rick