Re: I think they've done it again.

[nobody@xxxxxxxxxxxx (Dave Houston)]

As for trying to reconcile the reports, that's what I was alluding to when I
said some reports may be due to user inexperience or ineptitude. However,
there have been reports from someone who is neither inexperienced nor inept
that some X-10 dimmers are flickering during Insteon events. I think the
most likely culprit is excessive triac noise getting to the mains from the
Insteon dimmers. That could also explain the Lutron dimmer report.

It really seems improbable that Insteon, X-10 & Lutron devices would all
flicker in some reaction to the low level Insteon control signals.

Also, I'm not really losing confidence in Insteon. I still think the concept
is sound. I think the problem is one of too much haste in introducing new
devices and maybe cost cutting in component choices. The demand has been
high for new devices

"Robert Green" <ROBERT_GREEN1963@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>"Dave Houston" <nobody@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>> It now looks like they are well on their way to turning a silk purse into
>> just another sow's ear.
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>I just read through the thread and it's pretty amazing.  SmartLabs must know
>what the problem is - they stopped asked for samples of modules that exhibit
>the problem at the end of May.
>
>It's pretty hard to reconcile the reports, including those that claim that
>Insteon even makes hard-wired Lutron dimmers flicker.  When someone says
>"The issue I have is that when I hit one Insteon switch, the lights on
>another Insteon switch flicker for a brief moment" you have to wonder
>whether it's one or two faulty switches or whether all of them are bad.  It
>won't bode well for Insteon if they have to keep replacing equipment
>wholesale.  I wonder how much of a recall they can absorb without
>endangering their corporate viability?
>
>And finally: "the issue does appear to be one when one particular SwitchLinc
>unit sends out a dim command. The light it control dims correctly, but a
>totally different SwitchLinc unit that was not a target of the dim command
>flickers" which seems to indicate that the problem is not just with the
>defective(?) switches.  It seems to point to a defect that apparently can
>propagate through the system as well.  Ouch.
>
>The thread makes it clear that you're not the only one losing confidence in
>Insteon.  A number of folks who've sunk a lot of money into Insteon have
>indicated their unhappiness.  One poster said that it was no better, in the
>long run, than with the X-10 he had in his house to start with.
>
>While SmartLabs is encouraging people to buy the current (and one assumes
>uncorrected) switches, another Dave (Walters) added this succinct comment
>towards the end of the thread:
>
>"If we buy now, will you come to our homes and re-install the new (working)
>replacements in the future?"