Re: X10 Home Automation and Physical Security

["Robert Green" <ROBERT_GREEN1963@xxxxxxxxx>]

If you guys are going to blather on about religion and other VERY off-topic
subjects, please, either

a) meet in some other newsgroup* where it's relevant or

b) at least have the decency to change to subject to indicate that you've
veered so far off topic that there's not a shred of home automation
information in your messages.

It's this kind of inability to keep on topic that drags newsgroups into the
gutter by starting up never ending flamewars.  Please take this topic
private or to some other newsgroup where it's topical.  There are at least
two dozen I can think of.

Please?

(I've cross posted this to the VERY moribund news:alt.outer-polk.salad.annie
where no one's home and you can all continue arguing off-topic politics,
religion and race until the cows come home and no one will care!)

--
Bobby G.

"Robert L Bass" <sales@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:g84kt1tcj1fjlg7dtra583fntg87cbfevk@xxxxxxxxxx
> >>Side note:  The "Christian Right" is neither.
> >
> > The Pope has recognized that for thousands of years,
> > Christianity has oppressed and killed those from other
> > faiths.   In 2006 though, there is no organized effort
> > from the chruch to kill non-believers...
>
> Finally!
>
> > Peace and co-existance is what Catholics and in general
> > all Christians are preaching these days.
>
> Have you been to Ireland lately?
>
> > Not so on the Muslim side... Osama bin laden is a hero to
> > millions of present day muslims.
>
> There are billions of Muslims.  Terrorist Muslims are rare by
> comparison than bigoted, unchristlike Christians.
>
> > When the towers came crashing down on 911, the
> > Palestinians were dancing in the streets.  (The international
> > news media didn't like this reality and only covered brief
> > portions of this story).
>
> Ah, yes.  The International News Media Conspiracy.  Funny how
> everyone I know of saw the coverage.  It is true that there were
> Palestinians dancing in the streets after 9/11.  What the media
> didn't show because it wasn't "news" was the vast majority of
> Muslims who were appalled -- no, make that horrified -- at what
> those crazies did.
>
> > Polls indicate that there are thousands of followers of
> > Islam in Western countries that will not actually commit
> > terrorist acts, but will aid or at least sympathize with
> > those who do.
>
> Oh, really?  Who conducted those polls, Pat Robertson?
>
> > Look at Hamas, which was recently elected to be the
> > leaders of the Palestinian people.   They don't want
> > peace with Israel, they don't want to co-exist with Israel,
> > they have stated publicly that their mission is to destroy
> > Israel.
>
> Hamas is a terrorist group, no question about it.  They're among
> the worst.  They've risen to power because they appeal to those
> who feel they're oppressed by Israel or that they've been kicked
> out of what they believe is their country by the Israelis.  I
> happen to disagree with them.
>
> Personal note:  Being of Jewish descent, I'm very much
> pro-Israel.  Being a believing Christian, I'm also opposed to
> anyone who wants to destroy what for those of my faith is the
> "Promised Land".  That does not mean that I agree with everything
> Israel does.  There have been atrocities committed against
> Palestinians by Israeli soldiers.  The nutty settlers have also
> done much to incite rage among Palestinians.  Our (USA)
> government has also done little to help.
>
> > The same goes for that nut-job President of Iran...
>
> Agreed.  But he's probably not crazy.  Like Bush, he's pandering
> to the lower instincts of uneducated people who believe he
> actually gives a rat's butt about them.  In fact, like Bush, he's
> just in it for all he can get for himself and his pals and, like
> Bush, he's willing to sacrifice the lives of hundreds of
> thousands of innocent people to get what he wants.
>
> > One thing that the Iranians do really well is profess hatred...
>
> Don't confuse the ravings of a small minority with the wants and
> needs of an entire population.  I know a fair number of Iranians.
> All are disgusted with the crazy hard-liners who have been
> ruining their country, all for personal gain and all in the name
> of Islam.  True Muslims find these folks as reprehensible as true
> Christians do Bush.
>
> > No other people in the world burn with hate as well
> > is this group.
>
> Perhaps you're not old enough to remember what the deep South in
> the US was like as recently as the 1960's.  In those days the
> racial hatred was open and publicly endorsed by police and
> government officials.  These days it's a little more discreet but
> make no mistake about it.  The hatred is still seething just
> below the surface.  It's not limited to the South either.  It's a
> national disgrace.  It's not as obvious in the North but the
> racist undercurrent is just as real.
>
> > And yet it is a blind hatred...
>
> Same thing.
>
> > They hate you Americans because their fathers hated you
> > Americans...
>
> Perhaps if we Americans would learn to leave other countries
> alone when they're not bothering us or our allies there'd be a
> little less anti-Americanism in the world.  I'm love my country
> and I'm proud to be an American but I'm also ashamed of the way
> my country sometimes treats the people of other lands.
>
> Being patriotic does not mean blindly believing that everything
> about the USA is good and it sure doesn't mean hating all Muslims
> just because some Muslims are bad.
>
> --
>
> Regards,
> Robert L Bass
>
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