Re: Dedicated Z-wave sites?

[Marc_F_Hult <MFHult@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 03:29:54 GMT, nobody@xxxxxxxxxxxx (Dave Houston) wrote in
message  <45802078.733983562@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>:

>"Steve" <nobody@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>>Looking to see if there are any dedicated Z-Wave forums.
>>http://www.zwaveworld.com/ and the Z-wave alliance sites are all I have
>>found.
>
>Interesting site. Z-Wave has been around for about 3 years and the link
>cited says it's just getting started in 2006. It repeats the same steamy
>pie-in-sky claims that have been around for about 3 years about all the
>companies that are _planning_ Z-Wave products. 3 years seems a long time to
>be in the planning stage. I wonder where all the many millions of dollars in
>venture capital raised by Zensys in multiple rounds of financing has gone if
>they're just getting started with the planning in 2006?

This is shameful, purposeful mischaracterization. I searched the cite for the
word "planning". Here's where it comes up in the context Dave refers to:

http://www.zwaveworld.com/otr.php

 "  ZWW: Just how big is the Z-Wave world today? How many companies are making
products or are planning to? How many products are on the market?
    MW: Today the Z-Wave world is just getting started, with many companies
planning their product launches for the fall season of 2006. There are over
100 different companies with product development underway and over 60 fully
interoperable products on the shelves in the United States. These numbers will
more than double in the next year. "

As I understand it, there are more than 40 companies shipping products.
ACT-solutions,  who came up with a line of improved x-10 (A-10 ) hardware
before they gave up on X-10 lists more than 40 individual products
http://www.act-solutions.com/pdfs/HomePro/HomeProProductSelector.pdf

all by itself ~ 25 of which are apparently shipping
http://www.act-solutions.com/HomeProProductGrid.htm

New technology startup is difficult. Look at how long it took for Bluetooth to
become established. Now, as Bobby recently remarked in this newsgroup, it is
everywhere (despite our naysayer).

Another example is HD Radio. There are more than 1100 stations broadcasting in
HD digital, but receivers are scarce after years of broken promises on
shipping dates. There is _no_ affordable component tuner shipping last I
checked and nothing with a digital output for less than ~$2000 A table-top
unit I ordered 1-1/2 years ago that was going to ship the following month is
still not shipping last I checked. Those station represent > $100,000,000
investment that as yet has provided negligible benefit except buzz.

... Marc
Marc_F_Hult
www.ECOntrol.org